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  • Nagyesz
    Senior Member
    • May 2024
    • 124
    • Hungary

    #1

    Lenovo V14 G2 heating component

    Hi all!
    I have a laptop that the previous owner tried to repair. It didn't have backlight, but during the repair, accidentally short-circuited two components.

    Details:
    Inductors:
    PL5400 OL CHG_PHASE_S CHG_CHG ▶ 0.22V
    PL6001 OL 3V line
    PL5701 OL 5V line
    PL1004 9.5Ohm P_VDDCR_SOC_PH1_30
    PL1001 5.2Ohm +VDDCR_CPU
    PL1002 5.2Ohm +VDDCR_CPU
    PL1003 5.2Ohm +VDDCR_CPU
    PL7201 52.5Ohm +0.75VALW_P ▶ 3.9V
    PL7203 85.2Ohm +1.2V_P
    PL7202 OL (10KOHM) +1.8VALW_P ▶ 1.16V

    I measured the voltage of each inductor when the charger was plugged in (▶) rest of them has no volts, doesn't power on.

    Two component which was short ciruited is FV1 CV5 B+ +LEDVDD B+ GND

    Heating component is:PU6001 ! ( SY8386BRHC_QFN16_2P5X2P5 )
    1 pin 1.27
    2 pin 20.7V should be about 3v
    3 pin 20.7v should be about 3v
    4 pin 0v
    13,9,5 pin 0v


    Issue is most likely on the 3V line, but I simply can't find the source anywhere. How should I start?


    Also
    PJ6001 1V and GND
    PC6015 1V and GND


    Thank you in advance for the suggestions!

    Also I attach boardview
  • SMDFlea
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2018
    • 21145
    • UK

    #2
    Please post a link to the boardview https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...f-this-section
    All donations to badcaps are welcome, click on this link to donate. Thanks to all supporters

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    • Nagyesz
      Senior Member
      • May 2024
      • 124
      • Hungary

      #3
      Link to boardview https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...-2-0-boardview

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      • mcplslg123
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jun 2015
        • 7262
        • india

        #4
        PU6001, pin 2-3-4 are ties together and should be 19V as its VIN. Read diagram /datasheet carefully before proceeding.. What's the resistance to GND on FV1,pin1/pin2?
        Last edited by mcplslg123; 09-03-2024, 10:55 PM.

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        • Nagyesz
          Senior Member
          • May 2024
          • 124
          • Hungary

          #5
          Both pins are approximately 5 MΩ to GND, 20.3V travelling through


          (I fixed the short circuit a while ago, replaced the capacitor, and cleaned everything with alcohol.)

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 14318
            • Canada

            #6
            2 pin 20.7V should be about 3v
            3 pin 20.7v should be about 3v
            ?? Normal rail voltage is ~3v but you have 20V? ​

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            • Nagyesz
              Senior Member
              • May 2024
              • 124
              • Hungary

              #7
              Yes, when I measured it, that's the value I got, and this ic gets very hot. The boardview shows 3V for the ic, but due to the previously mentioned VIN, I thought it was normal, right?

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 14318
                • Canada

                #8
                No, no. This is Vin. This is a high voltage Vin regulator that is capable of accepting such a high voltage and lower it down to whatever. A buck regulator.

                If the part is heating up, remove all power -> measure the resistance to ground of the output rails. If there is a low resistance to ground, then something is shorted on the rail and causing an excessive load and heating up this part.

                See attached.

                Measure the resistance to ground of pins 15 / 16 (they are tied together so either is ok). What is the measurement?

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                • Nagyesz
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2024
                  • 124
                  • Hungary

                  #9
                  Pin 15-16 is the lowest measured in 200kohm, both of them 6.7kohm,
                  14, 6 pin 0.03ohm rest of them OL and pin 10 is about 100kohm

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                  • mon2
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2019
                    • 14318
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Not shorted. If this part is heating up, replace it.

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                    • Nagyesz
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2024
                      • 124
                      • Hungary

                      #11
                      Alright, I'll order it. By the way, I'm almost certain the short circuit was on the +B line, so it probably took out this IC. Thank you!

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                      • mon2
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 14318
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Forgot to ask about pin 13 = 3v LDO rail. The pins 15/16 are switching rails. What is the resistance to ground of pin # 13?

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                        • Nagyesz
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2024
                          • 124
                          • Hungary

                          #13
                          I missed it... 13 pins is 4.6 Ohms.

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                          • mon2
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 14318
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Ouch. Remove the cap that should be on this line and then measure the resistance to ground again. Everytime, without power of course to the board. Perhaps this local cap is shorted.

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                            • Nagyesz
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2024
                              • 124
                              • Hungary

                              #15
                              Which would be better to remove first?

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                              • mon2
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Dec 2019
                                • 14318
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                PC6006. The other appears to be PCB trace / solder blob short / jumper. Concern if this rail is powering the EC controller which will be the device that controls your keyboard and other low level functions. Confirm if the PJ6003 is a solder blob. If yes, after removing PC6006, then can review the balance of the loads on this power rail. This LDO is a low current rail so only a few components can be powered by this internal regulator. Someone is shorted here and most likely causing the heat up of the regulator.

                                Excellent - first remove the capacitor. Then test again if the resistance is higher. Only if required, remove the solder blob @ PJ6003. Then we will know which area of this rail is shorting.
                                Last edited by mon2; 09-05-2024, 08:33 AM.

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                                • Nagyesz
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2024
                                  • 124
                                  • Hungary

                                  #17
                                  Removed PC6006, solder blob is 4.6 ohms to gnd again :/

                                  How should I remove the blop now?

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                                  • mon2
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Dec 2019
                                    • 14318
                                    • Canada

                                    #18
                                    Yes. Then check the resistance again on each side of the empty solder pads. Suspecting the short is further on the downstream / consumer side of this rail.

                                    Use the BV file to assist. When you select this solder blob pad, who lights up on the BV file. Each is a suspect. Will do the same in a few.

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                                    • Nagyesz
                                      Senior Member
                                      • May 2024
                                      • 124
                                      • Hungary

                                      #19
                                      Found these
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                                      • mon2
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Dec 2019
                                        • 14318
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Ok - may have found a gold mine. Maybe. Downloaded the above linked BV file and unable to load it with my viewers. Checked my (paid) database service and they do not offer the same BV file but found the BV & schematics for the NM-D521 board. This board appear to be very similar.

                                        Do you have access to the NM-D521 schematics? This rail does travel all over the board but there are jumper solder blobs again to disconnect the EC power rail which is from this LDO. An alternate approach is to inject 1 volt onto this rail and check who heats up.

                                        ** DISCONNECT any IO cables; WIFI Card; Ethernet card and test again the resistance to ground. Each is powered from this low current rail.

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                                        Last edited by mon2; 09-05-2024, 09:01 AM.

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