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  • kingskie
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2014
    • 249
    • indonesia

    #1

    820-01958 no charging

    hi all,

    i am working on macbook air A2179 820-01958.
    problem: no charging. usb amp meter 5V and 0.3A both and upside down.
    if using original battery, sometimes shows battery sign.
    if using neww battery can booting but still get 5V and 3A.

    there is no sign of water damage or liquid.
    measurement:
    PP3V3_G3H_RTC = 3.25V
    PP3V3_UPC_T_LDO = 3.2V
    PP1V5_UPC_T_LDO_CORE = 1.57V
    USBC_T_CC2 = 1.39V
    USBC_T_CC1 = 0V (6.3MOhm for diode mode)
    PPDCIN_G3H = 4.9V
    PP20V_USBC_T_VBUS = 0V (0.5 KOhm for diode mode)
    PP5V_G3S = 0V (13 KOhm for diode mode)

    the measurement is the same for another ic.

    for this problem should i just replace the cd3217 ?
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 14012
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: 820-01958 no charging

    After a normal boot, do you see the battery details? Can you view the battery serial number,number of charge cycles, etc. ? This is important.

    Carefully measure the voltage to ground of each pin on the battery connector. Post all measurements.

    Interested to confirm the SMbus lines are ok (SCL and SDA).

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    • kingskie
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Oct 2014
      • 249
      • indonesia

      #3
      Re: 820-01958 no charging

      Originally posted by mon2
      After a normal boot, do you see the battery details? Can you view the battery serial number,number of charge cycles, etc. ? This is important.

      Carefully measure the voltage to ground of each pin on the battery connector. Post all measurements.

      Interested to confirm the SMbus lines are ok (SCL and SDA).
      yes @mon2, with new battery installed, i get 5V and 0A but i can power on with power button. and i can see the battery information such as cc, batt serial number etc.

      without battery
      SMSBUS_3V3_BATT_SCL = 3.2V
      SMSBUS_3V3_BATT_SDA = 3.2V
      SYS_DETECT_L = 0V

      with battery
      SMSBUS_3V3_BATT_SCL = 3.2V
      SMSBUS_3V3_BATT_SDA = 3.2V
      SYS_DETECT_L = 0V
      PPVBAT_G3H_CONN = 11.55V
      PPVBAT_G3H_CONN = 0.3V
      Last edited by kingskie; 07-25-2023, 03:12 AM.

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      • mon2
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2019
        • 14012
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: 820-01958 no charging

        I think you may have corrupted firmware. Do attempt and post your updates:

        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1148844

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        • kingskie
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2014
          • 249
          • indonesia

          #5
          Re: 820-01958 no charging

          Originally posted by mon2
          I think you may have corrupted firmware. Do attempt and post your updates:

          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1148844
          hi@mon2,

          usually when i only get 5v, i can not get into DFU mode.

          is there any chance that i get corrupted usb c ROM chip (U3060)?

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 14012
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: 820-01958 no charging

            Confirm the LDO rails on each ACE controller (cd3217). Each ACE controller must be working to dial up the 20v power delivery contract from the external power adapter.

            On the firmware bios, check the voltage to ground of each pin.

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            • kingskie
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2014
              • 249
              • indonesia

              #7
              Re: 820-01958 no charging

              Originally posted by mon2
              Confirm the LDO rails on each ACE controller (cd3217). Each ACE controller must be working to dial up the 20v power delivery contract from the external power adapter.

              On the firmware bios, check the voltage to ground of each pin.
              LDO rails all are ok.
              BIOS (U4770)
              - PP1V8_AWAKE = 1.79V
              - SPI_SOCROM_CLK = 0.026V
              - SPI_SOCROM_MOSI = 1.79V
              - SPI_SOCROM_CSL = 1.79V
              - SPI_SOCROM_MUX_MISO_R = 1.79V
              - SPI_SOCROM_WP_L = 1.79V

              P.S. i flashed the USB C ROM chip but still get 5V and 0.3A
              -

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 14012
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: 820-01958 no charging

                Confirm the SPI_SOCROM_CLK line at other points of this trace. The voltage should not be stuck low unless the SPI bus master is not oscillating.

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                • kingskie
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 249
                  • indonesia

                  #9
                  Re: 820-01958 no charging

                  Originally posted by mon2
                  Confirm the SPI_SOCROM_CLK line at other points of this trace. The voltage should not be stuck low unless the SPI bus master is not oscillating.
                  what should i do now?flash the bios?
                  can the not charging issue related to bios?

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                  • mon2
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2019
                    • 14012
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: 820-01958 no charging

                    1) Check the voltage to ground on each side of R4172.

                    2) Remove all power. Measure the resistance between R4172, pin # 1 and U4770, pin #6. This is to confirm the trace is still present between these 2 points of interest.

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                    • kingskie
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 249
                      • indonesia

                      #11
                      Re: 820-01958 no charging

                      Originally posted by mon2
                      1) Check the voltage to ground on each side of R4172.

                      2) Remove all power. Measure the resistance between R4172, pin # 1 and U4770, pin #6. This is to confirm the trace is still present between these 2 points of interest.
                      1. R4172 both sides have 1,8V
                      2. 2.9Kohm

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                      • mon2
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 14012
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: 820-01958 no charging

                        Confirm the same voltage is present at pin SPI_SOCROM_CLK on the flash ic.

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                        • mon2
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Dec 2019
                          • 14012
                          • Canada

                          #13
                          Re: 820-01958 no charging

                          Also, the resistance is not correct as measured. According to the schematic, the R4172 resistor should be ~20 ohms. Confirm this measurement again.

                          Do compare the resistance of R4171 which should be also ~20 ohms.

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                          • kingskie
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Oct 2014
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                            #14
                            Re: 820-01958 no charging

                            Originally posted by mon2
                            confirm the same voltage is present at pin spi_socrom_clk on the flash ic.
                            spi_socrom_clk = 0.026v

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                            • kingskie
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Oct 2014
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                              #15
                              Re: 820-01958 no charging

                              Originally posted by mon2
                              Also, the resistance is not correct as measured. According to the schematic, the R4172 resistor should be ~20 ohms. Confirm this measurement again.

                              Do compare the resistance of R4171 which should be also ~20 ohms.
                              i am so sorry @mon2, i measure on the wrong part (R4712)
                              i just measure now R4172 and R4171 is 20 ohms
                              voltage on R4172 = 0.014V (pin 1) and 0.026V (pin 2)

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                              • kingskie
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 249
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                                #16
                                Re: 820-01958 no charging

                                i was curious so i replaced 2 usb c ic and still the same problem.

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                                • kingskie
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Oct 2014
                                  • 249
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                                  #17
                                  Re: 820-01958 no charging

                                  anyone?

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                                  • kingskie
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Oct 2014
                                    • 249
                                    • indonesia

                                    #18
                                    Re: 820-01958 no charging

                                    update:

                                    DFU mode - revive - got error 4042.

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