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  • gerbercage
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    • Oct 2018
    • 20
    • Malaysia

    #1

    > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

    I got VGA card one day when boot, nothing show out.
    Later I found out 1 SMD capacitor spoil as show in photo. (Label C834)
    I check other SMD at near, none of them got any label nor value show out so is that possible for me to repair/replace this with other SMD capacitor that look similar? (same length,same height, something like that)

    Quite waste if 1 card just throw out like that with just 1 SMD down.
    I think C843 and C841 should be exactly same with C834.

    Any opinion/suggestion? Anyway to know the value? or simply get something near to that?

    Here also a link from website that got very detail look on the board. (Can enlarge after you choose the board photo)

    https://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/gigab...=2258&pid=2258
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  • piernov
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2016
    • 4435
    • France

    #2
    Re: > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

    Usually failure on GTX460 is due to the GPU. You can try replacing that capacitor but don't get your hopes too high.
    It seems it is a decoupling cap on the PCIe power rail. Try to find a cap with the same size on the board, and then measure it with some calipers, to know the SMD package size (like 0805). Then you can order the highest capacity capacitor rated for 16V or 25V in that package size.
    OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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    • gerbercage
      Member
      • Oct 2018
      • 20
      • Malaysia

      #3
      Re: > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

      Originally posted by piernov
      Usually failure on GTX460 is due to the GPU. You can try replacing that capacitor but don't get your hopes too high.
      It seems it is a decoupling cap on the PCIe power rail. Try to find a cap with the same size on the board, and then measure it with some calipers, to know the SMD package size (like 0805). Then you can order the highest capacity capacitor rated for 16V or 25V in that package size.
      I measure it. It is 1.24mm x 2.1mm so it is 0408?
      Someone say x7r with 10uf, 0.1uf and 0.01uf.
      I don't know whether is 10uf, 0.1uf or 0.01uf so I go with 10uf right? then with 25V?

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      • piernov
        Super Moderator
        • Jan 2016
        • 4435
        • France

        #4
        Re: > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

        0805 then, I'd pick a 10uF or 22uF, 25V.
        OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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        • momaka
          master hoarder
          • May 2008
          • 12170
          • Bulgaria

          #5
          Re: > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

          Originally posted by piernov
          Usually failure on GTX460 is due to the GPU. You can try replacing that capacitor but don't get your hopes too high.
          +1

          If you had the video card working in your computer and you never touched it before it went bad, chances are indeed it's the GPU chip that has failed and most likely that cap was gone/missing from before.

          On slightly older video cards, I find that particular cap to be usually in the range of 1 to 4.7 uF. But 10 uF? -very unlikely. Either way, the exact capacitance isn't too important. 1 to 4.7 uF @ 16V or 25V will work fine.

          But like Piernov said, that very likely will NOT fix your video card.
          One thing you can attempt, if the above doesn't fix your card, is to reflow it... though that will be only a temporary repair, at best (if it even works). Bottom line is there's no permanent fix for a bad GPU chip.
          Last edited by momaka; 11-11-2018, 09:39 PM.

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          • gerbercage
            Member
            • Oct 2018
            • 20
            • Malaysia

            #6
            Re: > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

            Originally posted by piernov
            0805 then, I'd pick a 10uF or 22uF, 25V.

            Originally posted by momaka
            +1

            If you had the video card working in your computer and you never touched it before it went bad, chances are indeed it's the GPU chip that has failed and most likely that cap was gone/missing from before.

            On slightly older video cards, I find that particular cap to be usually in the range of 1 to 4.7 uF. But 10 uF? -very unlikely. Either way, the exact capacitance isn't too important. 1 to 4.7 uF @ 16V or 25V will work fine.

            But like Piernov said, that very likely will NOT fix your video card.
            One thing you can attempt, if the above doesn't fix your card, is to reflow it... though that will be only a temporary repair, at best (if it even works). Bottom line is there's no permanent fix for a bad GPU chip.
            Thanks to both of you. I will try to get that first. For reflow, I think I have to check from website first because I not very know about it and don't know whether I got tools to do it or not.

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            • piernov
              Super Moderator
              • Jan 2016
              • 4435
              • France

              #7
              Re: > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

              Well… the ghetto way to do it is 8min at 200°C in the oven covered with aluminum foil, only a window around the GPU chip and under it. Better not do it if it's not necessary though.
              OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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              • Detro
                New Member
                • Dec 2018
                • 1
                • Polska

                #8
                Re: > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

                Hi, I'm having a similiar issue, how is your card doing? Did you replace that cap?

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                • momaka
                  master hoarder
                  • May 2008
                  • 12170
                  • Bulgaria

                  #9
                  Re: > Possible to repair/replace SMD capacitor in VGA?

                  Originally posted by Detro
                  Hi, I'm having a similiar issue, how is your card doing? Did you replace that cap?
                  It's not the cap that's the issue. It's simply the GPU chip going bad.

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