how to get rid of wifi mooches

[PlainBill]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

so what do you want me to do? sledgehammer my wireless b cards and my emac?

That sounds harsh, doesn't it? Think of it, however.

You had a parasite leeching off your network. As you say, it was someone with a low skill level. Consider the implications of it having been someone more skilled - at least aware enough to match network names. You'd still be supporting the parasite.

Now go one step further - a downloader. The latest Harry Potter movie went on sale today. Want to bet a rip of the BluRay disc isn't already available? How about someone with an appetite for music?

How long do you want to depend on the lack of skills of your neighbors?

PlainBill

[digge]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

it also was going to have access to the fileserver...

VPN could solve that, but the more security one wants the more complexity it adds. Not really user friendly anymore

[NxB]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

sledgehammer my wireless b cards and my emac?

Firmware update to support wpa? My B cards all support it, even the old ass ones. Otherwise get $5 cards from china.

Or you can leave it all open/use wep. Its your shit.

[ratdude747]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

it also was going to have access to the fileserver...

[digge]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

This is what i would do, however I'm not sure its a viable solution in your situation.

I would set up two wireless networks. One b network thats crazy locked down all the possible ways you can, and isolated from your other normal network so that it cant reach your local network, only internet. And a second g/n network thats more openly configured but with WPA 2 with AES encryption for the rest of your computers.

Not sure if only internet access is whats needed for your emac and stuff so might not be a viable solution for your particular situation. Also there is of coarse the cost of doing all this as well.

[ratdude747]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

so what do you want me to do? sledgehammer my wireless b cards and my emac?

[kikkoman]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

the kid porn scenario is much less likely than someone simply downloading pirated stuff (over BT etc.) via your connection.
in some legislations you're the one who's screwed if you don't use WPA/WPA2 against better knowledge.

[NxB]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

The only real way to lock down is WPA/WPA2 with strong password, PERIOD. But I don't think its as bad as you say PB.

financial activities over the neighborhood

SSL takes care of most of this, you won't be broadcasting anything important.

But take note of this:

If you're using windows and some wireless networks are set to auto, the laptop will probe them repeatedly. If someone is listening they will see every network you've been using. Some people have wacky stuff broadcasting like phone numbers so make sure your laptop doesn't do this. Don't set any networks to connect automatically.

[PlainBill]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

My suggestion is to lock any wireless signal down as tight as possible. First, you don't want to be broadcasting your browsing and financial activities over the neighborhood. Second, you don't want to have someone else hogging your bandwidth. Most important, you don't want to get a visit from some policeman asking about the 5 gig of kiddie porn that was uploaded from your IP address.

PlainBill

[ratdude747]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

yeah... i see. my goal was to have a one power cord solution. since the broadcast off feature seems to have stopped prettygirl, i see no reason to fix stuff that ain't broke.

[DOS-man]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

I think the easiest way to upgrade the wireless connection on your eMac would be to get a wireless bridge. Probably the easiest way to get a bridge would be to get a router with DD-WRT and set it up to be used as a bridge.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Client_Bridged

I've never done that myself, but I've used the Linksys WGA54G and the Trendnet tew-647GA wireless bridge devices and I've found them to work well.

[Scenic]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

how i understood it:

2 LEDs for his 2 computers via LAN were on, she parked outside with her laptop and the W-LAN/WiFi LED turned on when there shouldn't be any activity..

[Pyr0Beast]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

<i>SInce I had two PC's online at the time two of the green lights should have been on.</i>
Hm?

The only 'modem/router lights' I know are for LAN port activity and wireless activity.

Without any advanced scripting those lights don't show the number of connected clients

[kaboom]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

No it's not illegal. If she don't like you monitoring after she busted your security, no matter how weak it is, she best 'keep her RF off your property.'

Just like when people build their own FM SCA decoders and the old media complains.
"HOW DARE you listen to what we normally charge for!!!" The FCC is on your side and ConglomoClearChannel's RF *GOES EVERYWHERE!* And I'll go back to the 'home recording' days. Your signal is traversing my property, my radio 'just happens' to be on frequency and I'll have MY 'back up' of this broadcast, damn the torpedoes.

Not quite the same thing, but who the hell has the nerve to steal your bandwidth, then hack when you've had enough, and finally play double standards?! Besides, it's PRIVATE PROPERTY and the little bitch is SOL- she doesn't even have the same imagined 'rights' that she'd have at a hotspot.

If she needs it so damn bad, she can get a PCMCIA broadband-over-cellular card.

-Paul

[Wizard]

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japlytic wrote:

A growing number of wireless access points and clients (including Intel) will not allow connection speeds faster than 54 Mbit (G) if WEP or TKIP is used.
I'm not familiar with TKIP, but I am with AES, a high-grade encryption standard.

Where did you find that out?! Documentation did not say this.

Cheers, Wizard

[japlytic]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

A growing number of wireless access points and clients (including Intel) will not allow connection speeds faster than 54 Mbit (G) if WEP or TKIP is used.
I'm not familiar with TKIP, but I am with AES, a high-grade encryption standard.

[Junk Parts]

Re: how to get rid of wifi mooches

I wouldn't even know where to look in my OS/Network to log/sniff the pockets. I caught her the easy way. I saw her. When I look out the window to the left of my desk I can see the road and curb outside as well as my modem router sitting on the stand. She was parked at the curb with a laptop in her lap. SInce I had two PC's online at the time two of the green lights should have been on. At the moment I looked outside and could also see the modem a third green light came on. It was her jumping on. If she had been nice about it when I confronted her I wouldn't have had any problems with her using my hot spot for her work when she was in the area. I wouldn't want the police to take her lappy ether. She makes her living with the thing.

[NxB]

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If it was starbucks and you logged her packets from another client then that would be illegal.

Furthermore a photo of her sitting outside. PD seizing the laptop (chain of evidence) + subpoenaed ISP log (chain of evidece) would make it a slam dunk case.

The defense would try to get your log thrown out and because of the other 2 it would fail. The only hurdle would be incompetent police or prosecutor not wanting to pursue charges.

[digge]

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Logging/sniffing in your own private network cant be illegal can it? If it was a public network for the purpose of giving out internet then yes, that might be illegal. But on a private one you can tell whoever asks permission that its monitored and all that and they can choose not to connect if they dont trust you.

[NxB]

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How so? She is hacking into your network. The traffic would be recorded as evidence. This is after they have had words.