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  • PlainBill
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2009
    • 7034
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    #21
    Re: What is this part.....

    Originally posted by Welchs101
    In an early post someone suggested a replacement "Inrush current limiter" but the suggested replacement i think has a resistance of 12ohm........i measured ~ 9ohms on the one that i want to replace.

    So it got me to thinking ..........what do i need.

    The marking (see original pic) is SCK083



    This web site has sck type products but to be honest i am not sure what i need. I would like to order something from digikey if possible. Any ideas?
    I'm going to make a SWAG that the number on the part shows the critical, non-obvious information. There is no point in putting the diameter on the part - that can be readily measured. The 08 could indicate the cold resistance - 8 ohms, while the 3 indicates the current at 25°C - 0.3 A. They don't seem to spec the maximum current. but I would expect the monitor to pull something under 100 watts, so let's say 1 Amp.

    The closest match at Digikey would be 317-1149-ND. Or you could try using one from an unrepairable monitor.

    PlainBill
    For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

    Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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    • Welchs101
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      • Sep 2008
      • 979
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      #22
      Re: What is this part.....

      Hi Bill,

      Using this link .......i thought the resistance was 30ohms.......



      Resistane / Max Cur. / ~ R of Max cur. / Dis. Coef. / Thermal Constant
      30 / 1 / 1.022 / 11 / 30 for the MF72-30D9
      8 / 1 / 0.539 / 9 / 28 for the MF72-8D7

      Now i could be wrong .......totally wrong. The link might not be right.....

      What do you think?

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      • PlainBill
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2009
        • 7034
        • USA

        #23
        Re: What is this part.....

        Originally posted by Welchs101
        Hi Bill,

        Using this link .......i thought the resistance was 30ohms.......



        Resistane / Max Cur. / ~ R of Max cur. / Dis. Coef. / Thermal Constant
        30 / 1 / 1.022 / 11 / 30 for the MF72-30D9
        8 / 1 / 0.539 / 9 / 28 for the MF72-8D7

        Now i could be wrong .......totally wrong. The link might not be right.....

        What do you think?
        I don't know. The problem is they use the SCK series identifier and a 3 digit code. Nowhere do the correlate the 3 digit code to a part number.

        I just looked at a couple of 19" monitors I have here. The maximum current on one is .9A, on the other it's 1.5A. That calls for a maximum current of at least two amps.

        DUH!!! Email them and ask them to explain how SCK 083 correlates to the maximum current and no load resistance.

        PlainBill
        For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

        Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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        • Welchs101
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          • Sep 2008
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          #24
          Re: What is this part.....

          I just did........i will let you know what they say.

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          • Welchs101
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            • Sep 2008
            • 979
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            #25
            Re: What is this part.....

            ok...never got a response from them.

            But i did a little checking again and i am glad i did.

            The SCK083 .....the resistance is not 30ohms.

            Ok let me start over........originally i had found this link


            From the above link i thought the Resistance was 30hms. But then i found another link which i tend to believe more.


            Here the resistance is 8ohms. Recall that when i physically measure the device i get 9ohms.

            Ok so my question is i have a replacement bridge rectifier and the only SCK i have is SCK035 which measures about 4.7ohms. Can i use the SCK035 instead of the SC083?

            Using the SCK035 will not cause a problem will it?

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            • Welchs101
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              • Sep 2008
              • 979
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              #26
              Re: What is this part.....

              i copied the data from the spec see enclosed pic.........
              Attached Files

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              • Welchs101
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                • Sep 2008
                • 979
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                #27
                Re: What is this part.....

                Just wondering if i use SCK035 (since i dont have a SCK083) ....does anyone see any problems with this.

                This thermistor came out of a power supply from an LCD monitor.

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                • PlainBill
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                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7034
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                  #28
                  Re: What is this part.....

                  Originally posted by Welchs101
                  Just wondering if i use SCK035 (since i dont have a SCK083) ....does anyone see any problems with this.

                  This thermistor came out of a power supply from an LCD monitor.
                  As long as the monitor has roughly the same power rating and the bridge has the same current rating, I wouldn't worry.

                  PlainBill
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                  • Welchs101
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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 979
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                    #29
                    Re: What is this part.....

                    Hi Bill,

                    thanks. wanted to update you.

                    I put the other thermistor in and when i went to put in the spare bridge rectifier (replacement from another unit) the leads on the recitifier were too large so i cant use it.........

                    guess i will just have to order a replacement rectifier.

                    thanks for your hellp.

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                    • Toasty
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 4171

                      #30
                      Re: What is this part.....

                      Don't be overly concerned with the cold resistance of the NTC thermistor. It drops to zero nearly instantly as the unit comes on. As long is of the same or higher power rating or from a similar unit you'll be fine.

                      Use a fine drill bit and open the holes to accept the bridge rectifier leads.
                      veritas odium parit

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                      • Welchs101
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 979
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                        #31
                        Re: What is this part.....

                        Hi,

                        I am going to order a new bridge rectifier.

                        Someone had suggested i use this one

                        http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...%2F51&x=29&y=9


                        But since i am going to "piggy-back" on a order that my friend is placing and they are using Newark not digikey (i usually use digikey) that part that was recommended above is available through newark but you have to order 600 at time. I found this one on newark...........would it be ok

                        http://www.newark.com/multicomp/kbl4...83?Ntt=01P3583

                        Recall the orginal part i am replacing D2SB....which is i think (based on inputs from badcaps forum) a 1.5A 600V.

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                        • Welchs101
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                          • Sep 2008
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                          #32
                          Re: What is this part.....

                          Just wanted to double check before i buy

                          http://www.newark.com/multicomp/kbl...583?Ntt=01P3583


                          would the above rectifier be ok?

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                          • PlainBill
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                            • Feb 2009
                            • 7034
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                            #33
                            Re: What is this part.....

                            Originally posted by Welchs101
                            Just wanted to double check before i buy

                            http://www.newark.com/multicomp/kbl...583?Ntt=01P3583


                            would the above rectifier be ok?
                            At this point you should be able to answer the question yourself.
                            1. Will it fit?
                            2. Is the voltage rating high enough?
                            3. Is the current rating high enough?

                            PlainBill
                            For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                            Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                            • Welchs101
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                              • Sep 2008
                              • 979
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: What is this part.....

                              hi Bill,

                              I compared a few parameters like
                              1) If
                              2) VRRm
                              3) VRMS
                              4) VF
                              5) typical thermal resistance

                              and they are the same for both for the above parameters.

                              Whats different between the two:
                              IR: DIgikey part: IR = 5uA to 1mA, Newark part: 10uA to 500uA
                              Operating temp: Max for digikey part is 150C, Newark part is 125C


                              what i was not sure of is are these differences significant enough not to get the newark part. I think its not that significant but just wanted to be sure.

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                              • PlainBill
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                                • Feb 2009
                                • 7034
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                                #35
                                Re: What is this part.....

                                Originally posted by Welchs101
                                hi Bill,

                                I compared a few parameters like
                                1) If
                                2) VRRm
                                3) VRMS
                                4) VF
                                5) typical thermal resistance

                                and they are the same for both for the above parameters.

                                Whats different between the two:
                                IR: DIgikey part: IR = 5uA to 1mA, Newark part: 10uA to 500uA
                                Operating temp: Max for digikey part is 150C, Newark part is 125C


                                what i was not sure of is are these differences significant enough not to get the newark part. I think its not that significant but just wanted to be sure.
                                IR is reverse current; lower is better, so the Newark part is better. You do realise the boiling point of water is 100°C, right? If your monitor ever got to 125 °C, you'd have more problems that the bridge failing.

                                PlainBill
                                For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                                Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                                • Welchs101
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Sep 2008
                                  • 979
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: What is this part.....

                                  ok....i think i get your meaning.

                                  thanks!

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