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    Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

    I've found out that the 24V rail isn't working on my brother's 3007. The panel itself works, and I get an image; the issue is that the backlight doesn't work.

    Poking with a multimeter, I was able to confirm the other voltages were correct, but the 24V rail was outputting 0V, and it was neither a short nor a break.

    I'm just not completely sure where to look next.
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    Last edited by AmEv; 01-23-2017, 08:44 AM.

    #2
    Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

    So for sure you do get the 18V, 12V, and the 5V?
    You need to verify if you do have PS-ON, and if you do have boosted Voltage of around 380VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap or not.
    Never stop learning
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    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
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    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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      #3
      Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

      I'm going to double-check, as it seemed the 24V rail was a constant source, due to backlight brightness being lost upon loss of AC, and the other rails going to the backlight being data rails (serial(?) brightness control and backlight on/off).


      Will also get back to you on the other voltages.

      Edit: 5V reading 5.3V.

      Both STB rails reading 5.3V.

      18V rail reading 18.5V.

      Just to double-check, the main filter cap would be the huge one under the heat"bar", right? If so, either I'm not doing it right, or I'm getting no voltage across that cap.
      Last edited by AmEv; 01-23-2017, 11:34 AM.

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        #4
        Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

        Backlights ON/OF is just a stable state HIGH or LOW, usually >2VDC = Backlights ON, <1vdc = OFF.
        The dimming control signal may be analog (0~5VDC, 5vdc = max lamps brightness) or may be PWM (10~90%) control signal.
        PS-ON is also steady state control signal.
        That power supply board has PFC Voltage booster circuit that is turned on when ps-on is present.
        Last edited by budm; 01-23-2017, 11:43 AM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          #5
          Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

          Speakers work, 12V rail is working properly.

          I do remember voltage on the backlight on and backlight control rails; need to double-check those.

          Also, which line is the "PSU On" lead? I've followed the traces for the backlight enable/adjust, but they lead straight to the inverter cable without break.
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          Last edited by AmEv; 01-23-2017, 05:49 PM.

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            #6
            Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

            PS-ON is the command signal form main board to turn on the rest of the power supply, I.E. 24V.
            Then you have BL-ON (Backlights ON) which also comes from the main board, this signal is delayed a little bit after the power supply is turned on and stabilized, this signal turn on the backlights circuits.
            So you must have about 380VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap when PS-ON is present.
            BLK EN (Backlights Enable) is the same as BL-ON.
            BLK ADJ (Backlights level Adjust) is the same as Dimming control.

            What DCV do you have on 'STBN24 12'N and 'STBN18V) when the monitor is OFF and when the power switch is activated.
            We still need good clear straight shot pictures of the top and bottom side of the board so we trace out the circuit.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              #7
              Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

              I went through my HD and found pictures and how I tested the board.
              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...d=1#post720156

              LITEON PA-4151-1-LF
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                #8
                Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

                Here, let me get better lighting...

                I'll get back to you with the voltages.
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                  #9
                  Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

                  OK. The voltages for the "STBN" leads are 0V when the monitor is off, 5.3V when on.

                  I'm suspecting that those lines turn on the 18V and 12V lines when voltage is applied to them, and that the component(s) that turn on the 24V rail is out of commission.

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                    #10
                    Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...7&d=1485233865
                    Pin 9 is for 24V
                    Pin 12 is for 18V
                    So those two pins should be >2.5VDC when monitor is turned on.

                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...d=1#post720156
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      #11
                      Re: Dell 3007WFP - 24V rail not working

                      There's any of the many images that explains how the 24v psu starts or work, i've marked with RED box the area that have to be photographed, and with YELLOW the area that i think it must be checked first, all components. Bye.

                      especially, 1 of the 2 optocouplers is made to transport to primary the enable signal, it must check around 5v on diode when monitor is on, on the primary (phototransistor) it must have 0v.
                      Last edited by Davi.p; 01-25-2017, 02:12 AM.

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