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  • retiredcaps
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Originally posted by kktlam
    I'll make an order and see what happens next.
    Digikey has first rate service, but shipping to Canada is usually around $8 USD. In this thread, you will see fellow Canadian smason talk about his order and how quickly it arrived

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?p=304223

    If you are in no rush to fix this monitor, you might want to wait and see what other projects require parts before placing an order.

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  • kktlam
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Hi Sabre504,

    Thanks for looking these up! I wouldn't be able to find any of that (without your extensive knowledge of electronic components.)

    I'll make an order and see what happens next. Thanks so much for all you guys who have helped: you of course include selldoor and especially retiredcaps!

    Kevin

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  • sabre504
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Here it is
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  • sabre504
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Hi sorry it was just the package info didnt have time to upload service manual but will do it when i get home

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  • retiredcaps
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Originally posted by kktlam
    Seems hard to find
    This looks to be an equivalent

    http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail...0-1-ND/2531527

    Get 2 or 3 at 55 cents each.

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  • kktlam
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    I'm thinking of replacing this diode package. Seems hard to find - may be I'll look for it in other broken monitors. Meanwhile, is there anything I should check? I'm a little worried that something else is causing this voltage limiter to blow - I think it acts like a fuse.

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  • retiredcaps
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Originally posted by kktlam
    I was reading the the multimeter's user manual: is it correct to interpret these numbers as diode at PIN1 open, diodes at PINs 3 & 4 shorted, and only diode at PIN6 is good?
    Correct.

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  • kktlam
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Here we go. The first number is red probe on PIN 2/5, the other number is reverse ie black probe on PIN 2/5

    PIN2/5 to PIN1 = open,open
    PIN2/5 to PIN3 = 046,047
    PIN2/5 to PIN4 = 068,071
    PIN2/5 to PIN6 = 832,open

    I was reading the the multimeter's user manual: is it correct to interpret these numbers as diode at PIN1 open, diodes at PINs 3 & 4 shorted, and only diode at PIN6 is good?

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  • retiredcaps
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Originally posted by kktlam
    I'm not entirely sure which 8 readings: do you mean forward/reverse measurements at each anode/cathode pair?
    Yes. See datasheet for the pinouts.

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  • kktlam
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    I'm not entirely sure which 8 readings: do you mean forward/reverse measurements at each anode/cathode pair?

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  • retiredcaps
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    You should have 8 readings for the test by following the datasheet provided by sabre504.

    Use the diode test mode on your multimeter and report all 8 readings.

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  • retiredcaps
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Originally posted by kktlam
    While looking at the board closely, I found something VERY INTERESTING! The component D232 seems swollen, cracked and have brown/black stuff oozed from the bottom... photos also shown. I wonder what this is... I'm guessing 3 diodes in one package, perhaps?
    It definitely looks bad. You can test it in circuit to see what the readings are.

    edit: sabre504 found it was I was searching around.

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  • kktlam
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Impressive! Thanks sabre504.

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  • sabre504
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    D232

    diode-tvs;mmqa5v6t3,
    5.32/5.6/5.88v,24w,s
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  • kktlam
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    The voltage regulator guide was interesting read. Somehow I didn't venture to this one but read the "2s to black" only.

    The main board photo is attached. The readings are as follows:

    IC600
    1084-33
    0703BL
    PIN1: 0 V
    PIN2: 3.28 V
    PIN3: 5.12 V

    IC602
    18 <-- Edit: this number apparently tells us which voltage version.
    APL1117
    WIAB1
    PIN1: 0 V
    PIN2: 1.78 V
    PIN3: 3.28 V

    IC303
    6F
    709
    PIN1: 3.28 V
    PIN2: 0 V
    PIN3: 3.15 V

    While looking at the board closely, I found something VERY INTERESTING! The component D232 seems swollen, cracked and have brown/black stuff oozed from the bottom... photos also shown. I wonder what this is... I'm guessing 3 diodes in one package, perhaps?
    Attached Files
    Last edited by kktlam; 02-03-2013, 04:28 PM.

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  • kktlam
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Originally posted by selldoor
    Have you a mistype on 5.1v - think its too late to edit
    Ahh, good catch. It is 5.12 V. I'm not very good with typing numbers

    Retiredcaps, I'm going to read up on that and will report soon! Thanks!

    Kevin

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  • retiredcaps
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Originally posted by kktlam
    ON/OFF: 17 mV / 35 mV / 17 mV
    ON/OFF needs to be > 3V in order for the backlights to come on. The main board controls the ON/OFF functionality.

    Post a picture of the main board. Look at my sig file for the troubleshooting guide link for how to test a voltage regulator. Report your readings exactly in the format as shown in the examples.

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  • selldoor
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Have you a mistype on 5.1v - think its too late to edit

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  • kktlam
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Thanks selldoor!!

    It didn't occur to me (though I have certainly read this) to measure all pins for power off, on and then 2 seconds to black. Numbers listed below.

    B-DIM: 3.48 V
    15V: 14.40 V / 16.05 V / 14.40 V
    5.1V: 15.2 V
    A-DIM: 0.75 V
    ON/OFF: 17 mV / 35 mV / 17 mV

    I've measured the transformer secondaries already and they were identical. But for sanity/double check: both windings read 990 ohms.

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  • selldoor
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    Re: Samsung 940NW - 2 seconds to black - now just black!

    Retiredcaps will want to see the voltages on every pin on the connector list the results with the Pin descriptions alongside. Also do the test twice once when plugged in
    and then when switching on have your lead on the on/off pin and see if it changes.

    Another quick test WITH POWER OFF for 5 mins. Meter on 2000ohms test S1 to S2 and S3 to S4 on attached pic
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