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  • smason
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 1652
    • Canada

    #21
    Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

    Originally posted by epicelite
    That cap circled in blue, it MIGHT be bad? I can go higher in the uf rating right?
    Umm no, if that's the startup cap, you should replace it with the same value as what's there now.
    36 Monitors, 3 TVs, 4 Laptops, 1 motherboard, 1 Printer, 1 iMac, 2 hard drive docks and one IP Phone repaired so far....

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    • epicelite
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 58

      #22
      Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

      Well I don't know what it is but I replaced it with the exact same type.

      One here for $4
      http://www.audiolabga.com/data_html/STR.html

      Can't get it to accept my postal code for shipping calculation though.
      Last edited by epicelite; 08-12-2011, 03:54 PM.

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      • PlainBill
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2009
        • 7034
        • USA

        #23
        Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

        Originally posted by epicelite
        Nope it still doesn't work, I refuse to pay $10 for a single IC. >:|

        Especially when it's not guaranteed to be the problem.
        I understand how you feel. There are very few options at this point. I have been unable to locate a schematic for this power supply.

        With an oscilloscope and isolation transformer we could determine if the IC is 'live' or not.

        The symptoms do not match a shorted output diode, but that could be tested. It is the large diode mounted at a diagonal to the right of the standby transformer.

        Replacement power supplies are available for under $55.

        PlainBill
        For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

        Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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        • PlainBill
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2009
          • 7034
          • USA

          #24
          Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

          Originally posted by epicelite
          Well I don't know what it is but I replaced it with the exact same type.

          One here for $4
          http://www.audiolabga.com/data_html/STR.html

          Can't get it to accept my postal code for shipping calculation though.
          Strange. Where are you located? And have you tried contacting them either by email or telephone?

          PlainBill
          For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

          Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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          • epicelite
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 58

            #25
            Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

            Well it's too late to call today so I guess I will send a e-mail and try calling tomorrow.

            EDIT: Well now I have to fix this monitor ASAP. I got my Dad a new video card and it won't work with his CRT for some odd reason.
            Last edited by epicelite; 08-12-2011, 05:33 PM.

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            • Toasty
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jul 2007
              • 4171

              #26
              Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

              Google: CP08515F

              SearsPartsDirect.com: $2.16
              PartStore.com: $2.18
              veritas odium parit

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              • epicelite
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 58

                #27
                Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                How do you know that's the same thing?

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                • Toasty
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 4171

                  #28
                  Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                  http://www.audiolabga.com/data_html/STR.html
                  veritas odium parit

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                  • PlainBill
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7034
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                    Well done!!!

                    PlainBill
                    For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                    Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                    • epicelite
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 58

                      #30
                      Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                      I ALREADY FOUND THAT, check out a few posts up.

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                      • Toasty
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 4171

                        #31
                        Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                        Try reading it this time.
                        Last edited by Toasty; 08-13-2011, 01:34 AM.
                        veritas odium parit

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                        • epicelite
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 58

                          #32
                          Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                          That didn't do anything besides waste $8.

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                          • PlainBill
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 7034
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                            Originally posted by epicelite
                            That didn't do anything besides waste $8.
                            Hold it. Something is seriously wrong here. I've been dealing with the same power supply on this thread. The title of this thread indicates you have standby power. In post 1 you said the power light was on, that would indicate the standby supply was working....

                            Awww, crap!!! I'm sorry, I confused the S_B output with the 5.4 main output. Well, we're going to be following an existing trail.

                            First question: Does the power LED respond when you hit the power button - turn on and off?

                            If it does, the second question is: Does the voltage across the 82uF, 450 volt cap jump up to over 350 volts when the power LED is on?

                            PlainBill
                            For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                            Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                            • epicelite
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 58

                              #34
                              Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                              Originally posted by PlainBill
                              Hold it. Something is seriously wrong here. I've been dealing with the same power supply on this thread. The title of this thread indicates you have standby power. In post 1 you said the power light was on, that would indicate the standby supply was working....

                              Awww, crap!!! I'm sorry, I confused the S_B output with the 5.4 main output. Well, we're going to be following an existing trail.

                              First question: Does the power LED respond when you hit the power button - turn on and off?

                              If it does, the second question is: Does the voltage across the 82uF, 450 volt cap jump up to over 350 volts when the power LED is on?

                              PlainBill
                              Yeah power light turns on and off, and I guess I could check that. I will get back to you.

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                              • epicelite
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 58

                                #35
                                Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                                ON: 422V
                                OFF: 168V

                                Volt meter on the 1000V setting.

                                SO YOU'RE SAYING I SPEND $9 FOR THAT NEW IC AND SHIPPING AND IT WAS FOR NOTHING!? >:|

                                EDIT: Oops double post. :|
                                Last edited by epicelite; 08-18-2011, 03:55 PM.

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                                • PlainBill
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2009
                                  • 7034
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                                  Originally posted by epicelite
                                  ON: 422V
                                  OFF: 168V

                                  Volt meter on the 1000V setting.

                                  SO YOU'RE SAYING I SPEND $9 FOR THAT NEW IC AND SHIPPING AND IT WAS FOR NOTHING!? >:|

                                  EDIT: Oops double post. :|
                                  Yes.

                                  The next step is to measure the voltages on the main SMPS controller - ICM801. Set your DMM to the 20VDC range, use pin 4 as the ground point, and measure the voltages on every pin of the MC33067P. Report the readings.

                                  PlainBill
                                  For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                                  Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                                  • epicelite
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jul 2011
                                    • 58

                                    #37
                                    Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                                    Ugh it has like 20 pins!

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                                    • PlainBill
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2009
                                      • 7034
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                                      Originally posted by epicelite
                                      Ugh it has like 20 pins!
                                      Only 16. And I'm only asking you to measure the voltage on 15 of them.

                                      If you would prefer, the power supplies are available on eBay.

                                      PlainBill
                                      For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                                      Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                                      • epicelite
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jul 2011
                                        • 58

                                        #39
                                        Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                                        Well whats pin 1 and whats ground?

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                                        • PlainBill
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2009
                                          • 7034
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: 245BW, can't find problem. No 24 or 6.3V, standby is good.

                                          Originally posted by epicelite
                                          Well whats pin 1 and whats ground?
                                          Package designation here. Note the notch at one end, some manufacturers have a dimple by pin 1.

                                          Use pin 4 for the ground point of the DMM. Perform the tests with the monitor plugged in, and the power led on (you may have to hook the monitor up to a signal so the monitor doesn't go into standby.

                                          PlainBill
                                          For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                                          Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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