I have a gateway lcd that will not turn on . I have 135vdc at the filter cap .The esr values on all caps are ok to insure no parallel I removed the caps for measurment . I have inspected the circuit boards with an eye loop and found no bad joints . It has a switchless control does anyone know how to check this switch or bypass it on the main board /
need help with a gateway lp2407/fpd2484
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I have a gateway lcd that will not turn on . I have 135vdc at the filter cap .The esr values on all caps are ok to insure no parallel I removed the caps for measurment . I have inspected the circuit boards with an eye loop and found no bad joints . It has a switchless control does anyone know how to check this switch or bypass it on the main board /
Note my signature. Assisting without benefit of adequate pictures is difficult.
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there are no indicator lights the only voltage that I can check is the raw input voltage which is 135vdc . Trust me pictures will not help I have examined every connection with an eye loop and removed every cap and measured its esr all are less than .5 ohms . I suspect that there is no on signal from the front panel but I dont know howm to test it . It is a switchless device.Comment
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That is not right unless your line voltage is about 95V AC. It *may* indicate a failed diode in the main bridge rectifier. Unless/until the DC voltage across the main (filter) cap is correct I wouldn't be looking further downstream. Others may see this differently.Friends don't let friends buy Samsung ....Comment
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Re: need help with a gateway lp2407/fpd2484
there are no indicator lights the only voltage that I can check is the raw input voltage which is 135vdc . Trust me pictures will not help I have examined every connection with an eye loop and removed every cap and measured its esr all are less than .5 ohms . I suspect that there is no on signal from the front panel but I dont know howm to test it . It is a switchless device.
But since you know more than I do, fix it yourself.
By the way, you should be asking yourself why the input voltage is 135VDC.
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I think one of the main problems here is lack of photos. You may think they are unimportant, but since we're not sitting next to you or looking over your shoulder, it's hard to follow what's going on. Members need good focused photos to suggest what components to test. And they need to see photos of YOUR boards, since there are probably different revisions/configurations out there. And finally, I agree with pedro and PlainBill that the 135V across the main cap is a problem.Comment
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Let me explain my insistence on pictures. First of all, Gateway does not build these monitors; rather they are designed and built by one or more companies in China. As a result an FPD2484 can have one of several different power supplies, LCD panels, and even signal cards. Telling someone to measure the voltage across C10 (start up capacitor in one design) would be meaningless if in his version C10 was a line noise suppression cap.
Even in the case of a single power supply, I would have to first locate a picture of the power supply (schematics are very hard to come by for Gateway products), then identify the critical points to measure.
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If you are in the USA, your mains are 120V AC. Voltage across the main filter capacitor is 120V AC x 1.414 = roughly 165V DC.
0.5 ohms ESR depending on the uF, voltage, diameter, and height of the cap can by too high.
For example, a Panasonic FR 1000uF 25V cap has an ESR of 0.018 ohms according to
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it is a homemade meter made from instructions from http://ludens.cl .Comment
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Its 185 but I am using an isolation transformer that 133vac outComment
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That explains the voltage. The isolation transformer is a nice touch, wish I could find mine (how can someone lose an isolation transformer?)
I'd like a picture of the daughter board if possible. I realize that's pretty cramped. What is the part number of the IC?
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I should have known I seem to be fixated on the power switch because I have no clue on how to test it .
I made a stupid mistake when unsoldering the board after hearing 3 load pops I reliazed that I forgot unplug the power and dischard the filter cap I may be getting to old for this . I cant see any burnt areas are cracked parts so maybe the is no uncoverable damage .Comment
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