Since I listen to music quite a lot using my headphones, I figured a project like this was in order. Up until this point, I have been using the audio amp on a pair of Saturn SP632-A speakers to drive my headphones. The sound from that amp doesn't sound that great (lots of hiss and hum noise), but the only reason I still use it is because onboard audio simply doesn't provide enough volume for me (and those motherboards that can often distort badly on full volume). Moreover, I often find that the bass from onboard audio to be seriously lacking. And this is the second reason why I kept using the amp on my Saturn speakers – bass and treble tone controls.
Now I'm sure I could probably modify and improve the amp in those Saturn speakers, but a while back I found a broken (literally) Panasonic TV on the road and snatched the boards from it since it was already busted open in pieces. Among other useful “goodies” on the main board was an AN5272 amplifier. Now, I really wouldn't have thought about this project at all if it wasn't for Th3_uN1Qu3's thread below, which really inspired me (thanks man
)
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16299
So here it goes, I'll be building me a headphone amplifier soon.
Now, I've read up quite a bit on amplifier theory since the last time I posted on that thread above. However, I still feel somewhat inexperienced when it comes to amplifiers, so I would like to know if there are any improvements that I can make to my circuit below. It's basically an almost identical copy to the application circuit in the AN5272 data sheet. The only changes I have made so far is lower the gain, Gv, from 30 dB (Av = 20 V/V) to ~16.58 dB (Av = 4.255 V/V) and add tone controls (those LPF and HPF boxes found on the inputs).
The circuit actually works – I already tested it on a breadboard. It sounds okay too, and a huge portion of the hiss that I mentioned here is now gone – all thanks to the much lower gain. Believe it or not, the circuit on the TV board had an even higher gain than the suggested one in the data sheet – it was set to 33.4 dB (29.4 V/V). No wonder it was picking up all sorts of random signals
.
Overall, I'm satisfied with the way it sounds, though. However, there are still a few things that bother me…
1) The bass is still not as good as that from my Saturn speakers. I have only a few explanations for this: at the time I was thoroughly testing the amp, I was using a pair of 330uF caps for the outputs. With my Sony MDR-023 headphones (measured about 28 Ohms impedance), that gives me a low cut-off frequency of about 17.2 Hz according to this calculator:
http://sim.okawa-denshi.jp/en/CRtool.php
Originally, I was planning on using the original 16V 1000uF caps that came with the TV audio circuit. However, would there be an audible difference if I used 16V 1500uF caps? With those, the -3 dB point is shifted to ~3.8 Hz (vs. 5.7 Hz for the 1000uF caps).
Also, I just noticed some of the changes that Th3_uN1Qu3 has made to his amplifier from the original LM1877 suggested circuit. One of them is the feedback caps – they have been changed from 10uF to 100uF. Does this play a role in making the amplifier attenuate the low frequencies less? The suggested feedback caps from the AN5272 data sheet (C9 and C10 on my circuit) are also 10uF. Should I bump them to 100uF too?
The suggested input coupling caps (C3 and C4 on my circuit) also seem tiny – put the 10uF caps in there maybe?
2) There's still some very slight hissing from the amp, despite lowering the gain so much. I wonder if there is a way to reduce it even further. The power supply I was using for the testing (and plan to use for the finished amplifier) is a 19.5V 3.16A genuine HP power adapter that probably belonged to a laptop. Should I use something else?
Also, would a linear regulator help reduce the hissing? I have 24M12 and 78M15 regulators available.
Lastly, are there any improvements I can make to the Low Pass and High Pass Filter tone controls (perhaps any way to make the LPF boost the low frequencies even further)? I pretty much took the design for those from my Saturn speakers. The only thing I changed is that I didn't put a 470 Ohm resistor between the LPF and the output like my Saturn speakers did – but I simply did that because I forgot to. With the tone controls, it seems that the output audio level drops quite a bit - any way to improve that? Or is it pretty much a given trade-off?
Overall, I'm not expecting miracles from the sound of this amp. As was pointed out to me by the Th3_uN1Qu3, the distortion of this amp is quite “lousy”. Then again, my Saturn speakers employ a KIA6283A amplifier IC, which has very similar specs to the AN5272 in terms of distortion. And TBH, I really don't mind how the amp in those speakers sound. Of course if there is a way to improve my amp, let me know.
Sorry for all of the noob questions. I don't really expect anyone to answer all of them unless they would like to. Most likely I will just experiment some more with the amp to see if I can answer some of those questions myself. However, if anyone doesn't mind answering a few of them, I would be very grateful. I would actually like to finalize and build the amp in a few days if possible. I have all of the parts ready and a case as well. Won't give too many details away, but the case has some see-through plastic, so I'm thinking of putting some LEDs in there too
.
Thanks for reading everyone.
Now I'm sure I could probably modify and improve the amp in those Saturn speakers, but a while back I found a broken (literally) Panasonic TV on the road and snatched the boards from it since it was already busted open in pieces. Among other useful “goodies” on the main board was an AN5272 amplifier. Now, I really wouldn't have thought about this project at all if it wasn't for Th3_uN1Qu3's thread below, which really inspired me (thanks man

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16299
So here it goes, I'll be building me a headphone amplifier soon.
Now, I've read up quite a bit on amplifier theory since the last time I posted on that thread above. However, I still feel somewhat inexperienced when it comes to amplifiers, so I would like to know if there are any improvements that I can make to my circuit below. It's basically an almost identical copy to the application circuit in the AN5272 data sheet. The only changes I have made so far is lower the gain, Gv, from 30 dB (Av = 20 V/V) to ~16.58 dB (Av = 4.255 V/V) and add tone controls (those LPF and HPF boxes found on the inputs).
The circuit actually works – I already tested it on a breadboard. It sounds okay too, and a huge portion of the hiss that I mentioned here is now gone – all thanks to the much lower gain. Believe it or not, the circuit on the TV board had an even higher gain than the suggested one in the data sheet – it was set to 33.4 dB (29.4 V/V). No wonder it was picking up all sorts of random signals

Overall, I'm satisfied with the way it sounds, though. However, there are still a few things that bother me…
1) The bass is still not as good as that from my Saturn speakers. I have only a few explanations for this: at the time I was thoroughly testing the amp, I was using a pair of 330uF caps for the outputs. With my Sony MDR-023 headphones (measured about 28 Ohms impedance), that gives me a low cut-off frequency of about 17.2 Hz according to this calculator:
http://sim.okawa-denshi.jp/en/CRtool.php
Originally, I was planning on using the original 16V 1000uF caps that came with the TV audio circuit. However, would there be an audible difference if I used 16V 1500uF caps? With those, the -3 dB point is shifted to ~3.8 Hz (vs. 5.7 Hz for the 1000uF caps).
Also, I just noticed some of the changes that Th3_uN1Qu3 has made to his amplifier from the original LM1877 suggested circuit. One of them is the feedback caps – they have been changed from 10uF to 100uF. Does this play a role in making the amplifier attenuate the low frequencies less? The suggested feedback caps from the AN5272 data sheet (C9 and C10 on my circuit) are also 10uF. Should I bump them to 100uF too?
The suggested input coupling caps (C3 and C4 on my circuit) also seem tiny – put the 10uF caps in there maybe?
2) There's still some very slight hissing from the amp, despite lowering the gain so much. I wonder if there is a way to reduce it even further. The power supply I was using for the testing (and plan to use for the finished amplifier) is a 19.5V 3.16A genuine HP power adapter that probably belonged to a laptop. Should I use something else?
Also, would a linear regulator help reduce the hissing? I have 24M12 and 78M15 regulators available.
Lastly, are there any improvements I can make to the Low Pass and High Pass Filter tone controls (perhaps any way to make the LPF boost the low frequencies even further)? I pretty much took the design for those from my Saturn speakers. The only thing I changed is that I didn't put a 470 Ohm resistor between the LPF and the output like my Saturn speakers did – but I simply did that because I forgot to. With the tone controls, it seems that the output audio level drops quite a bit - any way to improve that? Or is it pretty much a given trade-off?
Overall, I'm not expecting miracles from the sound of this amp. As was pointed out to me by the Th3_uN1Qu3, the distortion of this amp is quite “lousy”. Then again, my Saturn speakers employ a KIA6283A amplifier IC, which has very similar specs to the AN5272 in terms of distortion. And TBH, I really don't mind how the amp in those speakers sound. Of course if there is a way to improve my amp, let me know.
Sorry for all of the noob questions. I don't really expect anyone to answer all of them unless they would like to. Most likely I will just experiment some more with the amp to see if I can answer some of those questions myself. However, if anyone doesn't mind answering a few of them, I would be very grateful. I would actually like to finalize and build the amp in a few days if possible. I have all of the parts ready and a case as well. Won't give too many details away, but the case has some see-through plastic, so I'm thinking of putting some LEDs in there too

Thanks for reading everyone.
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