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  • SolomonMan
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    • Apr 2019
    • 206
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

    All,
    Thanks for the advice...

    Can someone chime in where (due to my limited experience and this being my first Oscilloscope (to be used) where the 2 channel vs 4 channel are used mostly/will be adventageous commonly.

    Meaning I would assume that the 2 Channel vs the 4 Channel allows me to look at more electrical signals...but I watched a youtube video that mentions that some oscilloscopes the channel number limits the ability to examine the signal fully.

    Is that going to be a issue?
    Also the unlocking is that difficult?
    What is it exactly?


    Thanks
    Chris

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    • stj
      Great Sage 齊天大聖
      • Dec 2009
      • 31219
      • Albion

      #22
      Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

      on the Z series unlocking is very easy,
      you get the serial number, put it into a bit of software i can link, and it gives you the unlock code to type in or send over ethernet to the scope.

      the advantage of more channels with digital signals should be obvious, and you can monitor serial memory chips and decode the data.

      the advantage with analog stuff is you can monitor a signal in mutiple places to see where it's failing.
      for example you can monitor the input, output and a few places in between on an audio circuit to find the source of noise.

      it's also handy if what you buy can network over ethernet.

      you may find these handy:
      https://lxi-tools.github.io/
      https://www.youtube.com/user/RigolTech/videos
      Last edited by stj; 02-16-2020, 12:59 PM.

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      • SolomonMan
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Apr 2019
        • 206
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

        Originally posted by stj
        on the Z series unlocking is very easy,
        you get the serial number, put it into a bit of software i can link, and it gives you the unlock code to type in or send over ethernet to the scope.

        the advantage of more channels with digital signals should be obvious, and you can monitor serial memory chips and decode the data.

        the advantage with analog stuff is you can monitor a signal in mutiple places to see where it's failing.
        for example you can monitor the input, output and a few places in between on an audio circuit to find the source of noise.

        it's also handy if what you buy can network over ethernet.

        you may find these handy:
        https://lxi-tools.github.io/
        https://www.youtube.com/user/RigolTech/videos
        All,
        Ended Up Purchasing a Rigol DS1054Z....Now to wait for it to travel the roughly 300 miles to my home.

        Thanks
        Chris

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        • stj
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          • Dec 2009
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          • Albion

          #24
          Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

          once you get it, i can walk you through unlocking it to 100Mhz and enabling extra stuff - if it's not already on.

          dont follow information about doing it with the front panel - it's a pain.
          over ethernet is very easy.

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          • SolomonMan
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            • Apr 2019
            • 206
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

            STJ/Everyone,
            The Oscilloscope (Rigol DS1054Z) has arrived...There was some delay in shipping for delivery...so I picked it up from Fedex directly...Its next store to where I work.

            I have some reading to do...

            Thanks
            Chris

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            • stj
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              • Dec 2009
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              • Albion

              #26
              Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

              well get it on your network.

              here's some stuff from my notes:
              To see the full info you need to press these buttons (fairly quickly or it doesn't work):

              Menu -> Menu -> Force -> Menu -> Utility -> System -> System Info
              Connect to your router by ethernet cable, then select
              Utility>IO Setting>LAN Conf.>Configure> select DHCP, then "Apply" and "Initialize"
              The scope should fetch an IP address from the router and put it in the box in the LXI window. Write down this IP address.

              The Rigol communication port is 5555. So: in a Terminal window command prompt, enter

              telnet IPaddress 5555

              (insert your own scope's local IP address that it fetched from your router)
              opens the telnet application and contacts the scope on port 5555.

              Then send

              *IDN?

              and the scope should reply with its identification.

              Then you can send any of the SCPI commands in the Programming Guide, control the scope's functions remotely, and install or uninstall the unlocking codes using the SCPI commands:
              :SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTall
              :SYSTem:OPTion:INSTall and your 28character key without hyphens

              to close the telnet connection and exit the telnet program enter:
              ^] close

              (The "^]" means to hold down the Ctrl key while pressing the ] key, this is the "escape" character that puts telnet into command mode.)

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              • stj
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                • Dec 2009
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                • Albion

                #27
                Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

                btw, latest firmware is: v00.04.04.04.03

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                • SolomonMan
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                  • Apr 2019
                  • 206
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

                  Originally posted by stj
                  btw, latest firmware is: v00.04.04.04.03
                  STJ,
                  So I updated the firmware....From Rigols Site.

                  Had some issue getting telnet to work...not sure if it was my network or not...I am a Adhoc Wireless setup...I have used telnet and ftp daily for almost 5 years in my college years to get code to the proper servers....but I had to tie directly into my router and I am wondering if its limited/secured.

                  Anyways, found a recent youtube video using Google Advance Search.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=P...le&app=desktop

                  Then used the site to get Key;
                  http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/

                  I had a little issue originally as I left the "...." in the end of my Serial.

                  Used the DSER Option as it seemed suggested everywhere.

                  Then entered the Private Key and below is what I see now....I believe I am all set?

                  Thanks STJ and all for the help with this purchase etc.
                  Chris
                  Attached Files

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                  • stj
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                    • Dec 2009
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                    • Albion

                    #29
                    Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

                    that's it - your all set now.

                    did you do a "self calibrate" after the update?

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                    • SolomonMan
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 206
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

                      Originally posted by stj
                      that's it - your all set now.

                      did you do a "self calibrate" after the update?
                      STJ,
                      Not as of yet...still trying to get into the Manual...Wife is sick (flu now) and her dads not doing well...so my plate is a little full...

                      I will try and read how tonight.

                      Thanks
                      Chris

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                      • SolomonMan
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 206
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

                        Originally posted by SolomonMan
                        STJ,
                        Not as of yet...still trying to get into the Manual...Wife is sick (flu now) and her dads not doing well...so my plate is a little full...

                        I will try and read how tonight.

                        Thanks
                        Chris
                        Did the Self Calibrate and everything is Successful (Calibrate takes a while)...Now to use this on something and learn how to use it....

                        I have some reading to do...

                        Thanks everyone for the help,
                        Chris

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 31219
                          • Albion

                          #32
                          Re: Oscilloscope Advice....

                          adjust your probes and your good to go.

                          best wishes to your family.

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