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  • Th3_uN1Qu3
    Believe in
    • Jul 2010
    • 6031
    • Romania

    #1

    Need specs on Motorola RF transistor SS4153

    I bought this transistor for $10 a couple years ago from a friend of mine. I'd been told at the time that it's a 40W VHF band transistor. It didn't work and i thought i got ripped off, but it turns out it needed to be fed more input power than my transmitter had at the time. The transistor looks kinda like this:


    Just that under the Motorola logo it says SS4153 and under that 943. I was unable to find any info on it. What i do know is that it is a NPN RF power transistor (at least it acts like one), but i have no idea about its ratings, like maximum supply voltage, current and power output.

    Now, i've thrown together a quick class C amplifier using it and it works when driven with 6W. Power supply for the whole transmitter is a switching brick of 20V and 2.5A and i tripped its protection several times in a row, so i would guess it currently outputs around 15-20W RF, given the typical 60-65% efficiency of RF bipolar transistors. I do not have an accurate RF power meter, and i left my 12 and 24v lightbulbs at a friends' house, so i can only tune for maximum output using my scope. I don't know what the output power actually is, but it's significantly less than 40W.
    It is certainly above the 10W level though, as i have used trimmer capacitors like these, pulled out of a 5W 144MHz amplifier:
    and they are getting very hot, it could certainly use better ones. I have mounted the transistor on a suitable heatsink with a fan on it. It runs fairly cool and the output signal is clean.

    I would guess it is a 24 or 28 volt device but i'm not sure and i don't wanna blow it up. So if anyone has heard of this SS4153 transistor i would appreciate any data on it.
    Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 04-20-2015, 07:18 PM.
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!
  • ben7
    Capaholic
    • Jan 2011
    • 4059
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    #2
    Re: Need specs on Motorola RF transistor SS4153

    I found this, unfortunately, the link for the datasheet gives me a 404!
    http://www.codingintl.com/ss4153-p-11880.html

    Perhaps you might want to check some forums that are all about radios/RF equipment, they might have someone who knows what the specs are
    Or perhaps you might want to contact motorola (or freescale, not sure if they bought motorola's semiconductor business or what...).

    -Ben
    Muh-soggy-knee

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    • stj
      Great Sage 齊天大聖
      • Dec 2009
      • 30941
      • Albion

      #3
      Re: Need specs on Motorola RF transistor SS4153

      Originally posted by ben7
      I found this, unfortunately, the link for the datasheet gives me a 404!
      http://www.codingintl.com/ss4153-p-11880.html

      Perhaps you might want to check some forums that are all about radios/RF equipment, they might have someone who knows what the specs are
      Or perhaps you might want to contact motorola (or freescale, not sure if they bought motorola's semiconductor business or what...).

      -Ben
      maybe it's in the folder.
      http://www.codingintl.com/pdf/datash...%20Transistor/

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      • ben7
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        • Jan 2011
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        #4
        Re: Need specs on Motorola RF transistor SS4153

        Originally posted by stj
        Nope I don't see it in there.
        Muh-soggy-knee

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        • Th3_uN1Qu3
          Believe in
          • Jul 2010
          • 6031
          • Romania

          #5
          Re: Need specs on Motorola RF transistor SS4153

          Yeah i found the link as well. Doesn't actually contain the datasheet.

          I contacted my friend who sold me this transistor and he told me he found it at that time (he's known to lie quite a bit, tho), and that it is 40W but it needs at least 15W input to get there, also that it should be powered with 24V and "not more than 5A".

          That's pretty much in line with what i've figured out by its behavior so far, so i'll have to believe him. I'll report back with more info in the following weeks.
          Originally posted by PeteS in CA
          Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
          A working TV? How boring!

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          • kaboom
            "Oh, Grouchy!"
            • Jan 2011
            • 2507
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Need specs on Motorola RF transistor SS4153

            Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
            Yeah i found the link as well. Doesn't actually contain the datasheet.

            I contacted my friend who sold me this transistor and he told me he found it at that time (he's known to lie quite a bit, tho), and that it is 40W but it needs at least 15W input to get there, also that it should be powered with 24V and "not more than 5A".

            That's pretty much in line with what i've figured out by its behavior so far, so i'll have to believe him. I'll report back with more info in the following weeks.
            How are you matching/feeding it? You're getting less than a 5dB power gain.
            "pokemon go... to hell!"

            EOL it...
            Originally posted by shango066
            All style and no substance.
            Originally posted by smashstuff30
            guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
            guilty of being cheap-made!

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            • Th3_uN1Qu3
              Believe in
              • Jul 2010
              • 6031
              • Romania

              #7
              Re: Need specs on Motorola RF transistor SS4153

              Well the matching needs some work. I'll be buying a BLY89 transistor a couple days from now, that should give it enough input power.

              Bipolar RF transistors of that vintage usually had 6-8dB gain, not any more. Only the japanese ones have 10dB. And don't get me started on the Russian-made KTxxx, those had like 4dB gain.
              Originally posted by PeteS in CA
              Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
              A working TV? How boring!

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              • kc8adu
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 8832
                • U.S.A!

                #8
                Re: Need specs on Motorola RF transistor SS4153

                its likely house marked.most motorola rf bipolars are mrf-xxx.

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