Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
I get enough tvs to be able to survive with out buying pallets, had 5 vestels in to day and some others like a beko and umc.
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Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
Originally posted by tom66 View PostThey go to companies like xsitems (they have an eBay shop) and/or get auctioned off, usually on large pallets; I've looked into buying a pallet, but it's several thousand pounds for one, and you MAY get just a bunch of smashed screens, so there's a lot of risk there.
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Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
They go to companies like xsitems (they have an eBay shop) and/or get auctioned off, usually on large pallets; I've looked into buying a pallet, but it's several thousand pounds for one, and you MAY get just a bunch of smashed screens, so there's a lot of risk there.Last edited by tom66; 04-02-2015, 02:27 PM.
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Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
more likely ebay or a skip.
the trade value of the tv is too low to cover transport & repair i suspect.
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Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
Originally posted by stj View Postany idea where they go?
i know tesco sells returns that run to the staff at a large discount.
i know because i'v ended up with a lot of it for repair!
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Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
any idea where they go?
i know tesco sells returns that run to the staff at a large discount.
i know because i'v ended up with a lot of it for repair!
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Argos I feel sorry for because you only need to go into a store to see how many tvs are being returned.
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Originally posted by stj View Postargos needs to have it's ass kicked, dont they understand that under European law those tv's have a MANDATORY 2YEAR warranty???
In the UK, the SOGA law gives you 6 years warranty -- if you can show it is unreasonable for such a product to last. Unfortunately, it's difficult to argue with retailers about this, although not impossible, if you're patient...
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Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
argos needs to have it's ass kicked, dont they understand that under European law those tv's have a MANDATORY 2YEAR warranty???
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All my customers I advise to go with plasma or an older lcd that will be ccfl, seen too many failed leds absolute junk, and argos wont refund the customer when they fail
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Originally posted by stj View Postthe led's are almost certainly being overdriven.
a friend has converted backlit tv's using the 12v strips on a 5m roll without them failing - ironic that diy is more reliable!!!
Like this cree LED bulb I took apart, the MCPCB that the LEDs were mounted on had a little bit of space between the heatsink and the MCPCB. There was no thermal grease either. No wonder the LEDs failed!
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Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
the led's are almost certainly being overdriven.
a friend has converted backlit tv's using the 12v strips on a 5m roll without them failing - ironic that diy is more reliable!!!
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Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123 View PostI have a 40" toshiba in now 16months old and almost every led backlight has failed. It seems that these types of bulbs always crack in the middle when they fail, what a helpless pos
Picture showing the backlight array, bulbs with red dots above have failed.
A lifespan of 40,000 hours (to 1/2 brightness) for a CCFL backlight, with maybe 0.1% early failure of bulbs.
vs a lifespan of 100,000 hours (to 1/2 brightness) for an LED backlight, but at a 5% early failure rate.
Hmm, which wins? Oddly, CCFL will probably last longer on average!
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I have a 40" toshiba in now 16months old and almost every led backlight has failed. It seems that these types of bulbs always crack in the middle when they fail, what a helpless pos
Picture showing the backlight array, bulbs with red dots above have failed.
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Lapwing, thanks for the pictures; It confirmed what I pretty much already thought, they are not at all customised. I had hoped that, perhaps Panasonic would demand a better power supply design and panel choice. But no, it looks like the same shit that you'd get from Technika or Bush, only at a premium price. The VESTEL panel (probably based on Samsung glass, but bonded & assembled by Vestel) is the same crap I saw in the cheap 18 month old Polaroid, with the terrible gamma correction which makes everything look like a shitty oil painting.
They can't even print the back panel label with a high DPI so it looks all fuzzy.
Originally posted by rievax_60 View PostI thought that PFC is mandatory now. I can't see it.
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I thought that PFC is mandatory now. I can't see it.
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Re: Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own
Originally posted by Lapwing View PostHere are some pics of the PANASONIC VIERA TX-39A300B.
Big "VESTEL" on the PSU, and elite caps. Also, looks like there is the typical vestel "multiple diode treatment".
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