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  • Th3_uN1Qu3
    Believe in
    • Jul 2010
    • 6031
    • Romania

    #1

    Repairing a mouse

    A friend of mine asked me to take a look at his laptop mouse, a Genius Navigator 320. It would hang when trying to scroll, and only putting the wheel in a certain position would make it work again. Obviously, it didn't scroll at all.

    Since he mentioned something about pressing the wheel (the middle button) to return it to normal operation i thought cracked joints but no go. I replaced the scroll wheel encoder, same thing, so i put the original back in. It did have 4 small lytics but they checked out fine. I actually found a datasheet for the controller in the mouse, it's a PAW3502DL-TK, which makes this a 1200dpi mouse. Not bad... Some measurements showed that when the Z axis pins (the ones reading the encoder) went low, the mouse hung. When any of the two pins were high, the mouse worked. However, tying one of those pins high would kill the scroll functionality, and measurements on a good mouse showed that the controller should work in both states.

    More snooping around revealed that pin 4, which is the I/O voltage reference, normally 3.3v, dropped to 1.8v when both Z axis pins went low. Since there was insufficient I/O voltage, it's obvious that the thing stopped working... This pointed to a fault inside the controller chip itself. Unfixable, one might think. Well, there actually was a simple and obvious solution: tie it to the 5v power rail so it no longer drops! A 100 ohm resistor did the trick. I measured the current drawn by this resistor and it's only 5mA. The operating consumption of this controller is given as 10mA, so that's 50% more, but it's not like 25mW extra would make a difference in battery life when my laptop's CPU has a TDP of 32W, so that's fine. I also tried a 1k resistor and it didn't work, and i was too lazy to try other values. The only difference is that now pin 4 registers 4.7v at all times. Absolute maximum ratings are given as 5.5v for all I/O pins, so it should be fine.

    Btw, we ended up finding another laptop mouse lying around at David's place (this guy is David's cousin), so i think i get to keep this one. Sure, this mouse is $10, but nothing beats free and i had nothing to do tonight anyway. And my laptop mouse besides being crappy and low resolution, had a broken cord, so this one comes in handy.
    Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 03-19-2012, 06:40 PM.
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!
  • shovenose
    Send Doge Memes
    • Aug 2010
    • 6575
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Repairing a mouse

    Quick question... if that 3.3v place was the input, why would it go low if something further down the line was messed up?

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    • Th3_uN1Qu3
      Believe in
      • Jul 2010
      • 6031
      • Romania

      #3
      Re: Repairing a mouse

      The 3.3v was the voltage reference for all the I/O in the controller. Not an input pin. The only reason it was brought out (thankfully) was that it needed a bypass capacitor. It likely went low because the part of the chip that deals with the scroll wheel decided to eat up too much current. Or for any other reason like a factory defect in the IC or something. I don't really need to know why it failed - all i need to know is how to fix it.
      Originally posted by PeteS in CA
      Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
      A working TV? How boring!

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      • momaka
        master hoarder
        • May 2008
        • 12170
        • Bulgaria

        #4
        Re: Repairing a mouse

        Lol, is there something you CAN'T fix?

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        • goodpsusearch
          Badcaps Legend
          • Oct 2009
          • 2850
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: Repairing a mouse

          relationships :P

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          • Th3_uN1Qu3
            Believe in
            • Jul 2010
            • 6031
            • Romania

            #6
            Re: Repairing a mouse

            Originally posted by goodpsusearch
            relationships :P
            Wrong. Fixed my fair share of those as well. I will have to admit tho that i've yet to fix a long-term relationship for myself... but i'm working on it. Till then, a little bit of this and a little bit of that does the trick.
            Originally posted by PeteS in CA
            Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
            A working TV? How boring!

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            • Uranium-235
              Comrade Glimmer
              • Aug 2007
              • 5042
              • US

              #7
              Re: Repairing a mouse

              damn man, yo the ghetto electronics masta
              Cap Datasheet Depot: http://www.paullinebarger.net/DS/
              ^If you have datasheets not listed PM me

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