KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

Never mind, I did not initially see the cutout in the stand for the steel wool. Although as is, it seems one would bang the tip on the stand before getting used to that angle.

[redwire]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I find brass wool gives a shorter tip life, it scrapes off the plating, metal against metal. In our manufacturing plant, this was the case and techs were actually throwing the brass wool in the garbage because it kills tips fast.

A moist sponge has always worked the best for me, as long as you don't make a steam bath. "thermal shock" for a piece of plated metal does not bother it.

The T12 soldering stands have all the wrong dimensions - many mm gap so the handle droops or falls out. This machined aluminum one is stupid expensive, the tip hits hard, nothing to catch it from falling out, usual crap design.
Russians made some mods of a cheap stand.

[stj]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

brass wool is fine,
but a lot of the cheaper stuff is brass or yellow-coated steel!!

steel is to hard - brass is soft.

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

Interesting. I have had the opposite experience. I had a 936 (knockoff of the hakko 936 but the "high end" kind of knockoff if you can call it that ) heater element die on me and a few tips that got oxidised because of plating cracks when using sponge. I did get good millage out of it though.

I switched to T12 and brass wool. I still haven't had a dead tip or bad tip in years.

I would guess it also comes down to how the brass wool is 'packed'? Having it loosely or tightly packed in its container would act differently? (analogues to different grit sandpaper)

This machined aluminum one is stupid expensive, the tip hits hard, nothing to catch it from falling out, usual crap design.

Very true and very frustrating to use!

[sam_sam_sam]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I find brass wool gives a shorter tip life, it scrapes off the plating, metal against metal. In our manufacturing plant, this was the case and techs were actually throwing the brass wool in the garbage because it kills tips fast.

A moist sponge has always worked the best for me, as long as you don't make a steam bath. "thermal shock" for a piece of plated metal does not bother it.

The T12 soldering stands have all the wrong dimensions - many mm gap so the handle droops or falls out. This machined aluminum one is stupid expensive, the tip hits hard, nothing to catch it from falling out, usual crap design.
Russians made some mods of a cheap stand.

I have the one on the left is the one on the right any better and is it worth the money

I bought one also the angle is not correct and the opening is to wide to keep the soldering iron in place it a shame that it not made correctly because to me it would be a nice stand otherwise

I have use the brass wool and have not had a problem as such but if you clean your tip a lot it does slowly wear out your tip but I tend to run my tip a little bit hotter than maybe I should ( also have to clean the tip more often because of the higher temperature setting ) but I do not want to burn traces off the boards so there is a trade off which I willing to accept

[dicky96]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

I switched to T12 and brass wool. I still haven't had a dead tip or bad tip in years.

If you swapped to T12 and brass wool at the same time (that's how the sentence reads grammatically), how can you come to a conclusion that the damp sponge (vs crap soldering iron bits) was causing you problems previously?

[stj]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

another question,
how are you all using the wool?

i wipe the tip across it, i dont stab it into the pot.

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

If you swapped to T12 and brass wool at the same time (that's how the sentence reads grammatically), how can you come to a conclusion that the damp sponge (vs crap soldering iron bits) was causing you problems previously?

My bad, I was sleepy went I wrote this. I did repair my 936 but switched from sponge to brass wool. I had a similar tip (from same batch as the bad one). Never had any issue.

I switched to T12 at a later stage but kept using brass wool. I now keep the 936 as a back up.

[Spider1211]

Re: KSGER T12 OLED - says ERROR or INVERT

another question,
how are you all using the wool?

i wipe the tip across it, i dont stab it into the pot.

Light stabbing on the 'loose' part of the wool. I used to wipe but sometimes solder would fly off.