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Old 10-05-2018, 11:39 AM   #1
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Default Supermicro P6DGU Retro Build

Cheap board that's VERY hard to come by; from the cheap score thread:
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...postcount=2373

After having to make some component level repairs to this board that were beyond simple bad caps, its alive & healthy.

The processors are 2x 1GHz 100FSB (SL4KL), which are quite rare
2GB of RAM that I stole from a bad Asus CUV4X-D that was given to me...
GPU is a Matrox G450 (the best spare AGP card I have on hand at the moment).
Onboard U2 SCSI, Complimented with an ARO-1130 ZCR RAIDport upgrade (another rarity)
test HDD's are a pair of 9.1gb IBM's in a raid0...in permanent state, I'll find some 10k or 15k's.
Adaptec ana6922TX dual port NIC

I have an interesting case in mind for this one...but for now it's all in test form...

The culprit that had CPU slot 2 non-functional:


2 Live CPU's!!







Win2k with FF12, and of course this thread created from it...


...and probably the most unique rarity of this board:


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Old 10-05-2018, 06:10 PM   #2
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Oh that Made in USA sticker... I spotted it from far away and I love it!

Dual P3's @ 1 GHz - that should handle quite a bit. I tried the same in my CUR-DLS motherboard (though my CPUs are the 133 MHz version, so not that rare... but for $2 I can't complain at all) and it was pretty speedy, even with XP. If fact, I'm kind of wondering why you didn't put XP on there. With 2 GB of RAM and those CPUs, it will handle a much newer browser than FF12.
And you have AGP slot in that? - Nice! My crappy CUR-DLS only has PCI and PCI-X. Best PCI card I have is a GeForce 8400 GS, and that's already reserved for another PC. Besides, even a very good PCI card is slow compared to AGP due to slow nature of PCI bus.

So you got quite the good hardware there. Imagine if you had a time machine and traveled back a little, then showed your rig to people. I bet they'd be drooling hard.

Now it's just a cool functional museum piece. But can still be useful, if you have the right software and whatnot. And in this condition, it might be worth good money some day. Actually, people are putting crazy prices on old hardware like this already. I'm not sure if anyone is ever buying this stuff at that price... but I guess they must be if those auctions/listings exist. Who knows.

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Oh that Made in USA sticker... I spotted it from far away and I love it!
So did I....its probably one of the reasons I put so much effort into repairing the board. Normally when they need these kinds of components replaced, I toss them into the recycler barrel. Made in the USA + super rare supermicro....yea, no way is it dumpster fodder...

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Dual P3's @ 1 GHz - that should handle quite a bit. I tried the same in my CUR-DLS motherboard (though my CPUs are the 133 MHz version, so not that rare... but for $2 I can't complain at all) and it was pretty speedy, even with XP. If fact, I'm kind of wondering why you didn't put XP on there. With 2 GB of RAM and those CPUs, it will handle a much newer browser than FF12.
And you have AGP slot in that? - Nice! My crappy CUR-DLS only has PCI and PCI-X. Best PCI card I have is a GeForce 8400 GS, and that's already reserved for another PC. Besides, even a very good PCI card is slow compared to AGP due to slow nature of PCI bus.
This board has zero overclocking abilities. no VCORE adjustments, and only two FSB settings: 100 and 66....but I'm with you. When its set up in permanent form, I will put XP on it. I have several legit XP VLK's. XP will run great on this.

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So you got quite the good hardware there. Imagine if you had a time machine and traveled back a little, then showed your rig to people. I bet they'd be drooling hard.
Funny thing is, I remember looking at the P6DBU which same board, except it's a BX chipset (this one is a GX, which supports more memory) back when it was new (1999-ish)....was like $700...and that was before you bought supporting hardware.... No way a poor slob like me could afford that back then.

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Now it's just a cool functional museum piece. But can still be useful, if you have the right software and whatnot. And in this condition, it might be worth good money some day. Actually, people are putting crazy prices on old hardware like this already. I'm not sure if anyone is ever buying this stuff at that price... but I guess they must be if those auctions/listings exist. Who knows.
I've seen some of those loony listings.....I wish & hope they will bring those kinds of prices some day, I have some really oddball stuff around here that would definitely qualify! I'll have to sell them all before I kick the bucket....my wife thinks they're all scrap iron, and would probably dispose of them as such....

The case I'm working on for this build is a very excellent example of an era-specific 'out-of-the-box' system, but in a very unusual full tower option....and of course I have a nice array of Plextor opticals to outfit it with.
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So did I....its probably one of the reasons I put so much effort into repairing the board. Normally when they need these kinds of components replaced, I toss them into the recycler barrel. Made in the USA + super rare supermicro....yea, no way is it dumpster fodder...
So it's possible you threw out quite a few good boards then.
On seconds thoughts... most old hardware just needed a recap. So maybe not that many. And newer hardware with polymers probably doesn't get to you since you do mostly recaps.
Nevertheless, if I was near, I would've probably lived next to your dumpster, just to make sure I didn't miss anything getting thrown out.

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This board has zero overclocking abilities. no VCORE adjustments, and only two FSB settings: 100 and 66....
Meh. I'm so used to working on OEM boards that I hardly notice anymore.
Of course, it is nice to have them. Some older chips like the Athlon 64 can take pretty good overclock. What I like to do, though, is keep the clock @ stock speed but turn down the core voltage for extra power savings. You'll be surprised how low some of these A64 CPUs can go. An 89W TDP skt754 3200+ can pretty much be turned into a 67W TDP chip (same as the skt939 version). And the 939 version of the same chip literally turn it into 30-40W chip - that's almost as cool as a Pentium 3 CPU. Then the stock HS can really be turned silent.

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Funny thing is, I remember looking at the P6DBU which same board, except it's a BX chipset (this one is a GX, which supports more memory) back when it was new (1999-ish)....was like $700...and that was before you bought supporting hardware.... No way a poor slob like me could afford that back then.
Hehe.
I'm a little younger than you, so for me it was stuff from the socket 939 era when I was in my mid-teens. I remember drooling over the Athlon 64 FX-60 CPU, which back then killed everything Intel could put out. And of course, one of those SLI boards that could do dual 7900 GTX cards. Technically, I wasn't exactly broke and could also ask my parents to help me with the funds for such a rig... but it just didn't feel right. So instead, I kept puttering on my lowly-low-key 1.4 GHz Duron Applbred (T-bred) rig with 256 MB of RAM and a slow-even-for-its-time Radeon 9200SE (spoiled edition) video card. But then again, I learned so much on that PC due to it being slow, that I'm actually thankful I had it and not anything faster.

8 years later, and I got an Athlon 64 FX-57 CPU for free! (essentially a single-core version of the FX-60 and probably one of the fastest single core chips ever made.) Used it in a PC until last winter. Still have it and will be putting into use. It's paired with an MSI MS-7191 mobo, which I think I posted the recap of here.

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I've seen some of those loony listings.....I wish & hope they will bring those kinds of prices some day, I have some really oddball stuff around here that would definitely qualify!
Some of them do, actually.
It's usually the socket 7 and older stuff, though. Complete 386 and 486 systems fetched around $100 at one point. Haven't looked up recently what they sell for now or their availability.

That said, the prices on AGP cards is steadily going up, especially nVidia mid and high-range stuff. I saw a "very rare" (according to auction) GeForce FX 5950 XT ultra go for over a $1000 just 3-4 months ago, and several other listings with other FX5900 variants for $200-300 on average. These weren't the asking prices for them either. Most just started at $1-10 starting bid. And what I wrote above is what they _sold_ for. Very crazy if you ask me.

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I'll have to sell them all before I kick the bucket....my wife thinks they're all scrap iron, and would probably dispose of them as such....
Just tell her to write an obituary on BCN, if anyone wants to come pay you respects (+ buy hardware while there, from which the proceeds can go towards funeral costs).
That should get your stock sold pretty fast. Maybe not at the best prices, but better than scrap!

And personally if it was my funeral, I'd specifically request for people to bring bad & blown caps and toss them in when they dump me in the ground.
Ah, okay sorry for the black humor! I might have gone a little overboard there. Runs in part of my family.

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So it's possible you threw out quite a few good boards then.
On seconds thoughts... most old hardware just needed a recap. So maybe not that many. And newer hardware with polymers probably doesn't get to you since you do mostly recaps.
Nevertheless, if I was near, I would've probably lived next to your dumpster, just to make sure I didn't miss anything getting thrown out.
It would be pretty picked clean and determined to be absolute junk before being trashed. Anything really rare or unusual, I typically hang onto. I strip anything usable off them I can that's practical to remove and/or reuse.

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Meh. I'm so used to working on OEM boards that I hardly notice anymore.
For the most part, I don't either. I lost interest in overclocking anything once the netburst era stuff took hold....they were lousy overclockers, and CPU's beyond that, it really wasn't necessary... Pentium classic through Pentium3 era hardware was the 'golden age' of overclocking.

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Hehe.
I'm a little younger than you, so for me it was stuff from the socket 939 era when I was in my mid-teens.
I never had a 939 system, but I had a couple 940's later on, after they had become 'trailing edge'. This was a good 10yrs ago. I got seriously interested in tech @ around 19, around 1993....but already had a strong background. It started with 386/486...and then came the Pentium & windows95, all hell broke loose then!!

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Some of them do, actually.
It's usually the socket 7 and older stuff, though. Complete 386 and 486 systems fetched around $100 at one point. Haven't looked up recently what they sell for now or their availability.

That said, the prices on AGP cards is steadily going up, especially nVidia mid and high-range stuff. I saw a "very rare" (according to auction) GeForce FX 5950 XT ultra go for over a $1000 just 3-4 months ago, and several other listings with other FX5900 variants for $200-300 on average. These weren't the asking prices for them either. Most just started at $1-10 starting bid. And what I wrote above is what they _sold_ for. Very crazy if you ask me.
You know what's getting ridiculous in price....SCSI hard drives... I've got a lot of them, but am always looking for more. They're great for performance & authenticity of some retro builds. Controllers are plentiful & cheap.....but the drives.... YIKES! When I can get away with it (PCI compliance is the usual hurdle, especially P-classic stuff), I'll add SATA controllers to some P-classic~P3 era stuff, its a huge performance boost.


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Just tell her to write an obituary on BCN, if anyone wants to come pay you respects (+ buy hardware while there, from which the proceeds can go towards funeral costs).
That should get your stock sold pretty fast. Maybe not at the best prices, but better than scrap!

And personally if it was my funeral, I'd specifically request for people to bring bad & blown caps and toss them in when they dump me in the ground.
Ah, okay sorry for the black humor! I might have gone a little overboard there. Runs in part of my family.
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You could always will all of them to various BCN members...

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You vultures!! I'd have to label everything I guess....the sleeper builds without labels would be taken at face value.....bad for the seller, good for the buyer...
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You vultures!! I'd have to label everything I guess....the sleeper builds without labels would be taken at face value.....bad for the seller, good for the buyer...
Insider info is legal for auctions, right?
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It would be pretty picked clean and determined to be absolute junk before being trashed. Anything really rare or unusual, I typically hang onto. I strip anything usable off them I can that's practical to remove and/or reuse.
So lots of MOSFETs and other chips get left behind then. Ceramic caps too. That's not totally stripped in my book.

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I never had a 939 system, but I had a couple 940's later on, after they had become 'trailing edge'.
940/AM2 is when AMD quality started going down a bit, in terms of mobos. But most socket 939 motherboards are absolutely solid, minus some of them having crap caps, of course.

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You know what's getting ridiculous in price....SCSI hard drives... I've got a lot of them, but am always looking for more.
Not just those.
All hard drives cost a lot more than they used to. Part of the problem is that people/companies now have become way more paranoid about their data getting in the wrong hands through HDD recycling (yet, some will happily use Windows 10 without a second thought - go figure). So a lot of companies instead send their HDDs and hardware to the "crusher". So no more cheap HDDs anywhere.

It seems that IDE HDDs have also become a lot more rare. I really liked the last generation of parallel recording disks - the likes of Seagate Barracuda ATA IV and 7200.7 along with some WD800 drives. Now these are hard to come by. They can be found in SATA variants too (and in fact, I just got a shipment of 9 of them yesterday for $20 total - but deals like that are not so common anymore). For the very old PCs however, I like to stay with native IDE/PATA.

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You vultures!!
What???! No!
I just suggested that so that your hard work with some of these machines doesn't go to waste. At least that's how I feel about my stuff. Much rather give it to someone who can use it rather than see it get thrown out and looted for metal by the neighborhood scrappers (that is, if I was to croak ).

Also, rather than label everything, just give it a "starting" sell price from which to bargain down from.

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lol time for u to get that datavac. u should really get it. it has a made in usa sticker similar to that too!
I should.
That gives me an idea: I'll see if I can find one for cheap on eBay. Maybe broken too. Otherwise these things cost a fair bit that I'd rather just get a cheapo $40 air compressor from Harbor Freight. (And that's more useful, as I can also use it to spray paint too)

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IMO that kind of hardware would fall in the 5000 dollar dream pc category and frankly, it aint right asking your parents to splurge that much of their hard earned money unless u wanted to be and were a spoiled brat...
Exactly.
And that's when I really started getting into "ghetto-putter" style - i.e. take and reuse old cheap stuff rather than buy new bleeding-edge expensive stuff. I think that was a wise decision that I don't ever regret taking. Learned a lot in the process, especially troubleshooting.

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now, earning your own 5000 bucks and then spending it on good stuff like that, now that would feel so much better on money well spent!
Nah. If I had saved that money back then, I would have put them towards something more permanent. New technology and new cars depreciate in value way too quickly. For this reason I will never ever buy a new car. Not to mention that nowadays with all the electronics, I have zero interest in anything offered ATM. My current car has manual windows and a throttle cable, and I am very happy with it. That's all I'll say before I derail the topic way too far.

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I've seen some of those loony listings.....I wish & hope they will bring those kinds of prices some day, I have some really oddball stuff around here that would definitely qualify! I'll have to sell them all before I kick the bucket....my wife thinks they're all scrap iron, and would probably dispose of them as such....
You could always will all of them to various BCN members...

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Oh that Made in USA sticker
lol time for u to get that datavac. u should really get it. it has a made in usa sticker similar to that too!
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was like $700... No way a poor slob like me could afford that back then.
aye same. similar to momaka, i drooled over those thousand dollar cpus back in the day. i remember surfing for fx-57 reviews and prices and wishing i could afford that. also did the same for the qx9650.

now, i managed to get a san diego athlon 64 4000+ that overclocks to fx-57 speeds and more for US$30 back in 2011. also got the qx9650 for around US$150 back in 2011. so i managed to get thousand dollar hardware back in the day for a steal now lol!
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I remember drooling over the Athlon 64 FX-60 CPU, which back then killed everything Intel could put out. And of course, one of those SLI boards that could do dual 7900 GTX cards. Technically, I wasn't exactly broke and could also ask my parents to help me with the funds for such a rig... but it just didn't feel right.
IMO that kind of hardware would fall in the 5000 dollar dream pc category and frankly, it aint right asking your parents to splurge that much of their hard earned money unless u wanted to be and were a spoiled brat...

now, earning your own 5000 bucks and then spending it on good stuff like that, now that would feel so much better on money well spent!
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slow-even-for-its-time Radeon 9200SE (spoiled edition) video card.
lol. yea there were many joke names for what exactly ati meant with the se suffix on the low-end line. slow edition, shitty edition were among some of the other joke names. like u, i also got a 9800se to unlock to a pro. not a slow or shitty edition video card now! but it was still spoilt lol! it had defective pipelines thats why it was binned down as an se with only 4 pipelines as opposed to 8...
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btw i saw several of those boards "back in the day"
with that vrm chip killed by slotket hacks gone wrong.
i think i still have one in its original box complete with its bulging "nrsy" craps.
its a one of these days retro pc project.
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I recapped a lot of 370DLE/DL3 suprmicros with those fake NRSY crap caps. I've probably gotten a few of these in back in the day, but being customer property, I really didn't pay much attention to them, slot-1 stuff was historic junk in the BCN early days....but for retro-sake, its all coming back.

This board did have some fake NRSY's in it, not bloated, but very out of tolerance.
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not bloated, but very out of tolerance.
Like CapXon KMs that I saw on here, IIRC, those seem notorious for going bad without bulging and likely without leaking...
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Man I don't know why but I love this kind of builds, I think is just because the parts were built to last, new PC components are just not as exciting yeah you can run everything you might think but that takes a bit of the fun with it.
For the os XP was just perfect , I still use XP on the computer I use for college (not connected to internet tho) hey another other thing I don't like windows 10 believe it or not but the os that I like the most is windows 8 just because of that tablet like interface... (Off topic ik)
Congrats on your new build and I'm waiting for the final results!
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If you could just grind off that Gateway emblem and glue on a SuperMicro emblem it would be perfect.
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I was looking through my storage units today and found some really old tower cases I bet Topcat could steath mod. One is a NEC Tower and One is a Speery Univac "Militay only" USNavy ships I somehow saved from the back in the late 1980s when I was in service.
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The only thing that catches my eye is the corroded spots on the bottom of the metal of the case. Any plans for that and any way to stop the from popping back. I have tried spray painting before with store spray paint, but often bad rust spots (especially those from roach and/or bedbug poop) tend to come back right through the paint. Got any tips for that? I tried latex paint on another case recently. Seems to be holding up better and the paint is also a bit harder to nick away than regular spray paint. I did apply it with a brush, though, so it looks... well... not amazing. Not terrible either, though.
I usually just clean it up with a scotchbrite pad and leave it at that. If not stored in a humid place, it won't get any worse. If you want to paint/restore it, you have to grind it out (like you would doing body work on a car), down to the bare metal. You'd then have to treat it with rust inhibitor and fill the pits.....then prime & paint. I've done it before, and it looked better than a restored '57 Chevy.....but for a PC case, it's hard to justify...

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Meh. Didn't notice until you mentioned it.
I regularly just screw optical drives just on one side when I'm short on screws or the case feels tight enough that I don't thin screws on the other side are necessary (on loose cases, they are, as otherwise you get terrible vibrations.)
I always save screws when scrapping out total junk...I've got little storage drawers full of them....you can never have too many.


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Yessir.
I use it on a daily basis here. Same goes for Opera 12 - the last version with the *real* Opera engine and not Chrome-plated poop.
Opera....I can't even remember the last time I used that.... Never used chrome, and never will.

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Nah, I think that's part of the charm here.
However, he could put a small tiny sticker somewhere, saying "powered by SuperMicro" or something like that.
The emblem just pops out, but it would leave a blank in the shape of the 'gateway 2000' logo.


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I was looking through my storage units today and found some really old tower cases I bet Topcat could steath mod. One is a NEC Tower and One is a Speery Univac "Militay only" USNavy ships I somehow saved from the back in the late 1980s when I was in service.
I could only imagne what those weigh, shipping would be out of the question.... One of these days I need to take a road trip out your way and pilfer your stash.
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The Speery Univac tower weights a ton, it even has 2 8.5" drive bays for the old school floppy drives.
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This one is complete. I filled the 2x fan ports with some fans I scavenged from a junk powmax PSU...if anyone remembers 'powmax', the fans were the only thing in one of these pieces of crap that were good.

I reassembled the case....and here we are!

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This has been a fun one!!
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Man, those Plextor optical drives look awesome!
And I see both of them have their lights on. Are you reading something from one and burning it on the other?

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This one is complete. I filled the 2x fan ports with some fans I scavenged from a junk powmax PSU...if anyone remembers 'powmax', the fans were the only thing in one of these pieces of crap that were good.
Of course! PowMax is the reason I found and joined badcaps.net... and also how I got interested in power supplies.

Now this might seem a little embarrassing for you, but while we are on the topic, I remember finding this quote from a while back
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About a year ago I had a Powmax 500 watt power supply incinerate itself... Smoke poured out of the case, and the PC obviously stopped workin...

I took the cover off and the switch-mode transistor had burnt beyond recognition, along with everything around it... With that kind of damage I didn't even think to look at the caps... HEH...

I've since thrown it away, but I'll keep my eyes open... I frequently recommend and use Powmax supplies!!
And the thread can be found here, just so you don't say I made that one up.

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I usually just clean it up with a scotchbrite pad and leave it at that. If not stored in a humid place, it won't get any worse. If you want to paint/restore it, you have to grind it out (like you would doing body work on a car), down to the bare metal. You'd then have to treat it with rust inhibitor and fill the pits.....then prime & paint. I've done it before, and it looked better than a restored '57 Chevy.....but for a PC case, it's hard to justify...
Yeah, that's the thing - it is fairly humid where I am... and we don't even have a basement! (On that note, when I've picked up PC gear from really humid houses with basements, sometimes even the dust is so humid that it corrodes any metal parts that it touches.) So I do have to do something about rust spots, otherwise they keep growing bigger as the rust picks up more moisture and grows.

I've never done any car painting work, so I wouldn't know how to give the case a proper paint job. But as I mentioned, I did experiment on one PSU and one PC case with some latex paint after deeply cleaning the rust spots with sandpaper (I think I got pretty close to bare metal). Hopefully the latex paint will create a rubber-like moisture-proof seal to stop the rust from growing again. It seems that regular spray paint does not do that. Perhaps on the next case, I might try oil-based paint / wood stain. But I don't know. What're your thoughts on this?

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I always save screws when scrapping out total junk...I've got little storage drawers full of them....you can never have too many.
I did that at some of my previous jobs, so I do have some spare screws too. But like you said, you can never have too many. Just when I think I have enough, some project comes up and gobbles them all up.

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Opera....I can't even remember the last time I used that....
Well, now that FF24 and Opera 12 are pretty outdated, I find it equally likely/unlikely that a certain website will or won't work on them.
For general use (like looking for datasheets on Google or wherever else), I prefer Opera, as it's lightning-fast compared to any FF browser. But it seems that FF24 still has more websites compatible with it than Opera 12. So on a day-to-day basis, I usually have both open.

Opera 12 is wonderful for badcaps.net, BTW - especially on PCs with low RAM. I can browse BCN forums all day with over 20 tabs open and never run out of RAM - even on PCs with as low as 384 MB of RAM. Meanwhile, FF24 needs at least 1 GB with XP. And it feels a bit more sluggish too. Opera 12 + instant page redraw in options = lightning-fast loading times.

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Man, those Plextor optical drives look awesome!
And I see both of them have their lights on. Are you reading something from one and burning it on the other?
No, they're empty....but Plextor being the awesome creatures that they are, they have an 'on/busy' LED (the one that's lit), and another that lights if there's a disc in the drive. The burner has 4 blinky lights....I don't remember off the top of my head exactly what each one is for.

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Of course! PowMax is the reason I found and joined badcaps.net... and also how I got interested in power supplies.

Now this might seem a little embarrassing for you, but while we are on the topic, I remember finding this quote from a while back
You do realize that's 15yrs old? I've learned a few tricks over the last 15 years since that post...mainly, having one go up in smoke and understanding the reasons why. Prior to that, it was solid....live & learn!

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It seems that regular spray paint does not do that. Perhaps on the next case, I might try oil-based paint / wood stain. But I don't know. What're your thoughts on this?
It probably won't stick. Try some Rustoleum spray with rust inhibitor, that stuff works really well.

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I did that at some of my previous jobs, so I do have some spare screws too. But like you said, you can never have too many. Just when I think I have enough, some project comes up and gobbles them all up.
If you remember that big black double motherboard server tower, that one came with a gigantic bag of screws & hardware...I never understood why it came with all that, I didn't even use half of them....but I guess that's a rarity, the cheapass case makers these days usually don't give you enough.


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Well, now that FF24 and Opera 12 are pretty outdated, I find it equally likely/unlikely that a certain website will or won't work on them.
For general use (like looking for datasheets on Google or wherever else), I prefer Opera, as it's lightning-fast compared to any FF browser. But it seems that FF24 still has more websites compatible with it than Opera 12. So on a day-to-day basis, I usually have both open.

Opera 12 is wonderful for badcaps.net, BTW - especially on PCs with low RAM. I can browse BCN forums all day with over 20 tabs open and never run out of RAM - even on PCs with as low as 384 MB of RAM. Meanwhile, FF24 needs at least 1 GB with XP. And it feels a bit more sluggish too. Opera 12 + instant page redraw in options = lightning-fast loading times.
I haven't tried it in ages....I might have to dig it up and tinker...
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