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  • junktv
    Badcaps Legend
    • Nov 2010
    • 3063
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Obligatory backup server question

    Am i the only one that uses thumbs, big external drives and random small drives for back up?
    Is there a way to sort multiples by file not names? I have tons of multiples and sometimes I change the names.

    Did i see deathstars mentioned? Then again it wasn't maxtor. All drives fail.

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    • Topcat
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      • Oct 2003
      • 16956
      • United States

      #22
      Re: Obligatory backup server question

      Originally posted by junktv
      Am i the only one that uses thumbs, big external drives and random small drives for back up?
      I have too much data for thumb drives and USB HDD's are slow. eSATA isn't terrible, but when you have a system with hot swap trays cabled to a controller that supports hot swapping, it makes backup a breeze!
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      • junktv
        Badcaps Legend
        • Nov 2010
        • 3063
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Obligatory backup server question

        I have esata port and on board. No hot swaps and a tower i wanted that did had issues and was discontinued after selling many for $300+. Could add something to the 4 open 5" slots but why. Most my old drives are IDE.

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        • Hondaman
          Badcaps Legend
          • Sep 2008
          • 1057
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Obligatory backup server question

          Is the Asrock brand any good? I heard they make Asrock boards on the same line as the Asus stuff, and I have mixed results with Asus. The 4 disk capacity of the AM1H-ITX looks good, and I can put it in any attractive cube (AM1 passive cooler $10, still in stock). Asrock is supposed to be the Asus company's more "value priced" line. But they still have to have good quality or nobody would buy Asrock, right?

          I have no experience with Asrock, I'd like to hear from anyone who does.
          Last edited by Hondaman; 04-21-2016, 04:05 AM.

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          • mariushm
            Badcaps Legend
            • May 2011
            • 3799

            #25
            Re: Obligatory backup server question

            No, it's good brand.
            Right when it started, Asrock was for some time the offshoot of Asus that could afford to design some budget motherboards and some wackier designs that Asus didn't want to risk their brand with (like having AGP AND PCI Express on a motherboard, or hacking chipsets to allow both SDR and DDR1 or DDR1 AND DDR2 on chipsets that officially didn't support this) or having motherboards with CPU slots in which you could plug a special card with cpu and memory that overrides the older onboard cpu, for example to upgrade from Socket 754 to Socket 939
            .
            They also used some chipsets on a few motherboards that were considered "budget" or "value" like the SiS or Uli , which were popular in Asia but rarer in US and Europe.

            After a while, they also got into normal and higher end motherboards and they're quite decent and solid, nowadays they actually make some motherboards that are better than what Asus or Gigabyte releases.

            I personally wouldn't hesitate to buy one, it would be my second choice after Gigabyte (i just like the color themes more) on the same level with Asus, and the 3rd place would be MSI.

            later edit: Just a note, it's written in the manual as well. If you power the board from a 19v laptop adapter, the motherboard has to produce 12v for the fans and the hard drives besides the 5v it has to produce anyway for the USB ports.
            There's a power connector for hard drives right by the sata ports and you get a cable in the box but the cable only has two sata power connectors and the manual says only two drives should be powered from the motherboard.
            Of course, you can use a sata to several sata power connectors adapter/extension cable but I'm not sure how much current can the dc-dc converter on the motherboard provide. It may be able to power 4 hard drives or it may not, they only guarantee 2.
            Modern hard drives don't use as much power on 12v as older drives did, for example my 4TB HGST NAS drive says 12 @ 0.85A on the label so maximum 10 watts or so from 12v. Lower rpm drives like the 5400 - 5900 rpm drives use less, around 12v @ 0.55A. There should be some margin to allow more than 2 drives , especially if you won't use fans (they use about 12v @ 0.15-0.25A)
            Last edited by mariushm; 04-21-2016, 05:11 AM.

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            • Per Hansson
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2005
              • 5895
              • Sweden

              #26
              Re: Obligatory backup server question

              Originally posted by Hondaman
              Is the Asrock brand any good?
              ...
              I have no experience with Asrock, I'd like to hear from anyone who does.
              My latest mobo is from Asrock, it's my first one:
              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...0&postcount=21

              I'm very impressed by the brand and their novel solutions.
              "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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              • Spork Schivago
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2012
                • 4734
                • United States of America

                #27
                Re: Obligatory backup server question

                Originally posted by Hondaman
                Is the Asrock brand any good? I heard they make Asrock boards on the same line as the Asus stuff, and I have mixed results with Asus. The 4 disk capacity of the AM1H-ITX looks good, and I can put it in any attractive cube (AM1 passive cooler $10, still in stock). Asrock is supposed to be the Asus company's more "value priced" line. But they still have to have good quality or nobody would buy Asrock, right?

                I have no experience with Asrock, I'd like to hear from anyone who does.
                I have a customer who has a much older Asrock motherboard, socket 775. It could have been when they were first starting out but it's a much cheaper board. They used electrolytics that looked like polymers in the VRM circuit. The electrolytics were under the heatsink and I think the heat destroyed them.

                However, I have heard rumors that they really picked up the ball and now make some pretty good boards. I don't have any experience with the newer boards, just this older one. I want to say it has 3-phases, which isn't very good. You're probably asking about the newer models though, not the older ones. If they really did improve a lot, I'm glad to see that. I'm glad to see them take the money they made off the earlier cheaper designs and invest it into making better boards. I think that says a lot about a company.
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                • Hondaman
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1057
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Obligatory backup server question

                  It looks like MicroCenter has a $40 "instant bundle discount" taken off at the cash register. Just buy an AMD chip (in my case the 5350) and any compatible motherboard, and get $40 off the total price. This offer might be good until supplies run out. Perhaps AMD is helping MicroCenter get rid of some older chips.

                  I'll be going to Cincinnati on business in a few days. Anyone else want to take advantage of this? MicroCenter also has the Fractal Design Node 304 at a good price. It looks like I'll be building another computer!

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