Building an auto shop computer

[Uranium-235]

Re: Building an auto shop computer

Yeah I know it has a little fan assembly. But it's waay of the ground. Even the old computer didn't have mch dust and it was right near the floor

[dragos2009]

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i see a big problem you said that the nuc will be used in a workshop and there is a lot of dust and computers and dust don't go very well as in this case the nuc is not fanless and it has a small fan and heatsink that will be cloged with dust

[Uranium-235]

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I didn't have any usb issues. The usb was set to auto, which detects the current implimentation and switches. For instance it allows ehci on the windows install. The issue was never with broadwell, it was with skylake, which only allows xhci (yeah unless you impliment drivers on install boot). I found this out during a skylake i3-6100 build for a customer of mine. Luckily, the motherboard had a ps/2 keyboard/mouse combo, and I was able to go through the windows setup easily with just a keyboard. Unfortunately the usb install method did not work from my flash drive even with usb legacy mode on. Had to actually use sata otherwise it could not find source files. No problem with usb keyboard/mouse or usb install of the NUC

[dragos2009]

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try this to see if it works http://nucblog.net/2015/07/installin...h-or-nuc5ppyh/

[Uranium-235]

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Got it. Mobile i5 broadwell. 24" samsung monitor with a back mount. But had issues installing on the 950 pro. Turns out it has its own driver for it's pci-express chip. Had to find someone who extracted the files so I could load them into windows 7 install

[Uranium-235]

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they currently have a usb extension cable, running up a pole with a duct taped up USB wifi adapter. No problems

I don't think they use arc welders

[stj]

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i think your not thinking clearly.
you cant use wifi in a workshop, ignition systems and welders etc will jam it.

[Uranium-235]

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Oh I found one with built in wifi (many of them only come with the wifi antenna cables and you have to install a mini m.2 wifi card).

What do you guys think? Its a mobile i5

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?it...9SIA6ZP3R88391

[Uranium-235]

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Hmm. Dual m.2 slots (wifi and ssd). Wifi wires included. Vesa mount. Not bad. I will need an hdmi to dvi connector though

[dragos2009]

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why not buy an intel NUC computer it tiny powerful enough

[chowder]

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If it's in a cabinet, I wouldn't have thought dust or fan noise would be major issues. Go for a massive fan and a decent PSU (upgrade the fan(s) in that as well).

[Uranium-235]

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It's an external psu brick, the case had no psu, just an open board on top. This case is tiny. Only place for s fan is the side grill

[stj]

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whatever you do, you need to push air through the case,
99% of the work is modding the case - blocking all vents etc so air only goes in through the fans and only gets out through the psu.

saying the cpu is 53w dont mean much these days, i see a lot of mobo's that need bigger heatsinks on the chipset than the cpu - they still generate heat.

[Uranium-235]

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Just got an idea, what about a mini-itx system with an antec isk case? Found a great gigabyte motherboard with integrated wifi (they currently use a usb extention cable with s usb wifi adapter taped on a pole on the cart).

It's sn antec isk 110 vesa (can be mounted on the back of the monitor)
Motherboard is a GIGABYTE GA-H97N-WIFI
Processor is a Pentium G3460 (53 watts)
Ssd is a ss 850 pro 256g
No dvd drive (not possible)

Not 100% the 90w power brick can take all this, any ideas/experiences?

[stj]

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Unless you've got some MEGA fans blowing (8500RPM or higher), you'll have a hell of a time creating positive pressure in a computer case.....and if you have something drawing that much air in, cleaning the fitlers will be a daily chore, and I won't even begin to mention the noise....

now your getting there,
my old server has 3 120mm fans on the front running a total of about 250CFM
the filters dont clog as fast as you would think.

noise? who cares if it sounds like a small turbine - the bank of scsi drives arent exactly silent.

[momaka]

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I would suggest building a very low power PC - perhaps the lowest TDP core i3 you can find. That way, you won't have that much heat inside the case to deal with and might be able to get away with very little air movement going through the case. Perhaps just a single fan (or two) running at low speed and sucking air through a filter on the front, as stj suggested, would be the best. If the PC runs hot, maybe have another fan inside the case that simply only circulates air in the case.

Also, if the PC will be running hot, avoid all of those cheap CPU heatsink retention mechanisms that use the board to provide the clamping force - these designs *will* warp the board and could cause BGA failures. Go with a design that uses screws with springs.

From personal experience, I can tell you that my Dell OptiPlex has no problem handling the temperature in my room in the summer, which I usually let it slide up to 29-30C (82-86F). And that thing has a P4 Press-Hot HT CPU
It does sound like a vacuum cleaner though. Took it about 3 years to get some dust in it. But then again, I do vacuum and dust at least a few times a month. A dusty shop would be many times worse, no doubt.

no, you need to ram the air in and filter it on the fan itself so that clean air is leaking out of every orifice.
if you dont do it that way, crap will bypass your filters and get in through every tiny hole and even use your dvd drive and usb ports as air filters!

Yup, I've seen that myself with one of my dumpster-picked PCs. Floppy drive and CD drives were a mess inside.

[Topcat]

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the case does not need to be airtight if it's pressurized.

it will still get dust in it though. anytime theres air movement, there's also dust movement, and in a garage (especially a working one) there will be no shortage of dust. it will get in. filters will reduce it, but nothing will stop it. Unless you've got some MEGA fans blowing (8500RPM or higher), you'll have a hell of a time creating positive pressure in a computer case.....and if you have something drawing that much air in, cleaning the fitlers will be a daily chore, and I won't even begin to mention the noise....

[ReeceyBurger123]

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Cooler master Hyper 212 or newer they are great coolers. It takes a while for them to get clogged due to the heatsink fins being quite well spaced and the fan is very effective even at low RPM Also more fans blowing in than out, will cool things alot better and help reduce dust getting trapped.

[stj]

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the case does not need to be airtight if it's pressurized.

[Topcat]

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Hate to break it to y'all, filters don't stop it all....mine is filtered as well, but unless you have a completely air-tight case, dust will find a way in.....which yes, will require a blow job periodically.