win11 users - read this:

[stj]

m$ has an update that could corrupt your ssd.
so if your stupid enough to run 11 watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlY2QjP_-9s

[harp]

Someone comment... The portion showing how to roll back begins at 8:00. Even though I tried to disable automatic updates as Jay recommended, Microsoft immediately reinstalled the same codenamed update without my permission last night after I had watched this video. So I'm honestly not sure how much control I even have over MS pushing out bricking updates anymore, this is making me want to move away from Windows so badly.

[stj]

maybe these would help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hdApSJAEEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJSie_3ncc8

he makes a lot of good video's

[stj]

this new vid may explain the updates not turning off!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i43BZyJ4azc

[lti]

Why do so many articles about this update mention Phison specifically and then list a bunch of other controllers? Doesn't WD/Sandisk make their own controllers? I even saw one claim that HDDs were also affected. It's a lot worse than the last time when 2TB WD SN770 drives were causing a boot-loop. It's about as bad as the constant OneDrive errors I get at work (I wouldn't use OneDrive personally, even if my Internet connection could handle it) or its refusal to sync some files while claiming that they synced successfully.

Windows will not listen to your requests to roll back updates. I've been through that before. The only way to prevent that update from installing is to fully disable automatic updates. I've also mentioned a few times that Windows will always replace drivers with whatever is in the Windows Update catalog, even if that driver is older than the one that is currently installed (it's supposed to check the driver date and not install if you already have a newer driver). (Before someone mentions hiding updates, that never worked, even in Windows XP. Hiding an update always meant "install silently without any prompt to restart," so a problematic update would suddenly appear a few days after you hid it.)

[stj]

companies use whatever controller they can get for the best price at that moment.
thats why it's so hard to know what's at risk.
i only use crucial and only run Linux so it's not such an issue.

from what i can make out, the ability to block or roll back updates is based on the licence key,
if your running the "Home" version and probably "student edition" then your fucked pretty much.
higher licences get more options.

[stj]

btw,
if you install a driver and want to keep it,
cant you just invoke the "read-only" flag to stop it getting overwritten?
that used to work to block adobe(bastards) from using flash-cookies!

[m1ch43lzm]

There's a way to block driver updates from Windows Update
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/an...ferrer=answers
https://pureinfotech.com/disable-aut...tall_windows11

Yes, I agree that Windows sometimes delivers broken/older drivers if it thinks they're "better" than the ones from the manufacturer website

Happens with GPU drivers, where WU will install an older version after you installed the latest drivers from AMD/NVIDIA website..., or the broken Win11 Intel GPU drivers which cause screen flickering while moving the mouse cursor in some laptops, fixed by installing either the driver from the laptop manufacturer, or the generic Intel GPU drivers

this new vid may explain the updates not turning off!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i43BZyJ4azc

You probably meant these vids
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/mJqDbQaM34Y

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/e9tdlNFABJQ

No wonder updates are broken...

[lti]

There's a way to block driver updates from Windows Update
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/an...ferrer=answers
https://pureinfotech.com/disable-aut...tall_windows11

There are multiple methods, and one of them will stop working every April. Then you have to use a different method. You won't know until everything is suddenly broken one day, and then you check the update history and see that it installed that same old broken driver automatically outside of an update cycle.

Then you see people on the Internet telling you that you're stupid for not applying the group policy on a computer running the Home version of Windows. The Home version doesn't support group policies, so you have to use the registry entries that keep changing every year.

You probably meant these vids
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/mJqDbQaM34Y

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/e9tdlNFABJQ

No wonder updates are broken...

I'm guessing that those are actresses doing some PR stunt (LinkedIn bullshit). The people doing real work don't want to be on camera (not even on conference calls).

On the other hand, I work at a place that has a pool table.

[stj]

the shit just got worse!
multiple controllers and isssues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbFIUu_7LIc

[lti]

Every article about this listed multiple controllers from the start. I still don't know why everyone decided to single out out Phison while ignoring the rest of the list (and that brief mention of some HDDs also being affected).

I was waiting for someone to find a different task that triggered the same bug, though.

[m1ch43lzm]

And MS and Phison are "washing their hands" as the saying goes, they "cannot reproduce" the bug when JayzTwoCents managed to reproduce it in the video linked by stj, while benchmarking a game, not necessarily caused by "transfering more than 50 GB of data" which was the initial reports (coincidental with a game update at the time)

Whatever MS changed in the storage code is causing the SSD controller to crash requiring a cold start to recover, sometimes corrupting data in the process, I don't think it manages to corrupt the SSD firmware (yet), at most a corrupted file system
Maybe it's caused by high disk activity, not necessarily high writes, who knows
Instead of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", MS seems to like "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is" ...

Remember the HMB bug on Win11 24H2 some months back, where manufacturers had to release a firmware update for some SSDs, MS changed some code related to HMB (Host Memory Buffer) on NVMe SSDs, when Windows set the HMB buffer size to 200MB (supposedly that value was reported by the SSD controller), whereas before it was set to 64MB even if the SSD reported more than that

Not sure if related to what one of my customers experienced 2 weeks ago on her laptop (coincidental with this update perhaps), the usual bug that corrupts the user profile and a new profile folder is created, leading to "loss of data", where the data (documents, desktop, pictures, etc.) is hidden on the "old" user profile folder, I had to help her copy the data from the "old" profile to the "new" user profile over a phone call, and told her to backup the data to a external drive
Luckily I had disabled BitLocker/decrypted the drive when she brought the laptop to me a month before

[stj]

Every article about this listed multiple controllers from the start. I still don't know why everyone decided to single out out Phison while ignoring the rest of the list .

Phison make the controller used in the other names on the list.
most harddrive/ssd makers dont use their own chips.

i will give you an example:
Integra SSD drives.
the C series uses a Silicon Motion SM2258XT,
the P series uses a Phison S11,
the V² series uses a Marvell 1120.

[lti]

There are generic "InnoGrit controller" and "Maxio controller" lines without listing specific drive models. I don't know who makes controllers for Western Digital because the controller chips are SanDisk branded. They could make their own controllers like Samsung, or they could just remark some other controllers.

[stj]

the controller can be identified by software or checking the boot logs.

as for win11,
it looks like it also has problems with some wifi chipset too now!