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    Upgrading XP to Windows 10 in 2025 - HP Pavilion HP-A550Y

    I am contemplating upgrading an old HP Pavilion HP-A550Y from Windows XP to WIndows 10. This machine has a 3 GHz Pentium 4 "Prescott" processor. I have some additional RAM to add. Have plenty of HDD space. I have several questions on how to best proceed at this late (for Windows 10, anyway) date.

    Where is a good place to get a copy of Windows 10 and the activation key? Would I use 32 bit or would I use 64 bit version? Is it possible to do a fresh installation of Windows 10 these days and not an upgrade? If upgrading, is it possible to go from XP to 10 directly and without first ugrading to Windows 7?

    #2
    thats a 32bit cpu and wont even address a full 4gig of ram,
    stick with XP or install a light 32bit Linux system.

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      #3
      Originally posted by stj View Post
      thats a 32bit cpu and wont even address a full 4gig of ram,
      stick with XP or install a light 32bit Linux system.
      ^This, even if you can get Windows 10 to run (drivers may be an issue, and you'll be limited to 32 bit as stj mentioned) on that system it will be an absolutely miserable experience. If you really want to "upgrade" it would probably run "ok" (but not great) with windows 7, but anything beyond that forget it.

      Assuming your location of USA is correct, core2Duo/Quad and earlier core I3/I5/I7 series (particularly 4th gen and older) systems can be had for next to nothing these days (easily <$50 for a working system, most likely without a HDD, but you'll want and SSD for windows 10 anyway and those are also very cheap these days), so if you want a newer OS you're probably better off upgrading the hardware as well

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        #4
        It's too old for Windows 10, agreed. You can do it just as an experiment but it will hurt for daily use. That processor will only run 32-bit software FWIW. Pentium 4 was a mistake in the first place, I know, I had two as a teenager. The 3GHz Socket 478 Prescott system was the last system my father built for me, the first C2D desktop, I put together myself.

        I've had good success with Solus Linux, the versions using KDE or XFCE desktop. KDE is the most similar to Windows 10. By default it gets a floating Taskbar ala Mac, but you can easily stick it to the bottom like Windows does and it's very flexible when it comes to configuration options.
        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
        A working TV? How boring!

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          #5
          I wondering if you did the opposite could you take a computer that was designed for windows 7 and use windows xp on it I am sorry if I have high jack this post a little bit but I been wondering this for a while
          Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 02-15-2025, 07:37 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by sam_sam_sam View Post
            I wondering if you did the opposite could you take a computer that was designed for windows 7 and use windows xp on it I am sorry if I have high jack this post a little bit but I been wondering this for a while
            Just about anything up through 3rd gen (ivy bridge) intel i3/i5/i7 (as well as the AMD FX series) has good windows XP support (remember many companies stayed on XP right up to end of support in 2014, since Vista was a flop, and it took several years for a lot of 3rd. party software to be compatible with/certified for Windows 7). You can theoretically install XP on Haswell (4th gen i3/i5/i7), but XP drivers for those motherboards are often difficult/impossible to find as XP support largely dropped off by that point. If using a dedicated GPU you'll also need to stick to a GeForce GTX960 or older, or Radeon R9 270X or older as those were the last GPUs that supported XP.

            The newest system I have windows XP (SP3) on (largely built from "junk" I had laying around) has the following specs:

            CPU: AMD FX-8320e
            Motherboard: ASRock 970M Pro3
            Ram: 4GB DDR3-1600
            GPU: AMD Radeon R7-260X
            Storage drive: 256 GB TeamGroup EX2 SATA SSD
            Optical drive: LG GH20NS15 DVD+/-RW
            Sound card: ASUS Xonar DSX 7.1
            PSU: Pc Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 600W
            Last edited by dmill89; 02-15-2025, 12:39 PM.

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              #7
              Thank you to all for the informative answers. Looking at some information I've seen on various websites, my Prescott-based system "can" be upgraded to Windows 10, and my question more concerned the "should". That which is practicable is not necessarily practical - you've answered that question. I've another machine, now running Windows 7, that I would like to upgrade to Windows 10 - I'll start a new thread for that.

              Dmill89 remarked about Vista being "a flop" and running XP instead. Under my care is yet another machine, which also came with Windows 7 and which I "downgraded" to XP because of problems. That machine runs only an old accounting package plus word processing-type applications, and still is working well, with no OS troubles here a dozen or so years later. That machine just now developed a suspected hardware problem about which I'll start another thread.

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                #8
                ram - it comes down to ram.
                your max ram is going to be about 3.8gig
                if you install some bloated shit like 7 or 10 and then run firefox a large webpage could be enough to run out of ram.
                Amazon's website is one of the worst btw.

                something interesting you could try,
                install a 32bit linux,
                then install WINE
                https://www.winehq.org/

                then configure wine to emulate win7 or 10/11 and see how well it runs.
                wine is slightly faster than windows, but i dont knowif it's lighter on ram useage.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by stj View Post
                  ram - it comes down to ram.
                  your max ram is going to be about 3.8gig
                  if you install some bloated shit like 7 or 10 and then run firefox a large webpage could be enough to run out of ram.
                  It's not even about RAM. A modern web browser will run like absolute garbage on this CPU, and I'm not even talking about loading a web page, just the web browser user interface.
                  About RAM, 4 GiB is acceptable to load a web page even on Windows 10, if you're not running other stuff in the background. But the northbridge will most likely not handle more than 2 GiB of RAM anyway.

                  I'm all for trying to keep old systems running for as long as possible, but trying to browse the web on this machine even with a lightweight-enough Linux distribution is going to be a nightmare. On top of that, 32-bit stuff is being deprecated all around, and especially web browsers are breaking support regularly in their source code or build system, while packagers have to fight to keep stuff running. So gotta expect stuff to break randomly.

                  Windows 10 32-bit itself has been abandoned several years ago already and it won't receive any update.

                  It's time to forget about putting this machine on the Internet.

                  In my opinion, the cutoff for running a web browser is Core 2 Penryn. While it's not fast, it can play Youtube in 1080p 30 FPS, so it's acceptable to use daily but gotta stay modest.
                  Microsoft just ended (unofficial) support for that generation on Windows with Windows 11 24H2 though.

                  Originally posted by stj View Post
                  then configure wine to emulate win7 or 10/11 and see how well it runs.
                  Wine Is Not an Emulator, it's in the name.
                  OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dmill89 View Post

                    Just about anything up through 3rd gen (ivy bridge) intel i3/i5/i7 (as well as the AMD FX series) has good windows XP support (remember many companies stayed on XP right up to end of support in 2014, since Vista was a flop, and it took several years for a lot of 3rd. party software to be compatible with/certified for Windows 7). You can theoretically install XP on Haswell (4th gen i3/i5/i7), but XP drivers for those motherboards are often difficult/impossible to find as XP support largely dropped off by that point. If using a dedicated GPU you'll also need to stick to a GeForce GTX960 or older, or Radeon R9 270X or older as those were the last GPUs that supported XP.

                    The newest system I have windows XP (SP3) on (largely built from "junk" I had laying around) has the following specs:

                    CPU: AMD FX-8320e
                    Motherboard: ASRock 970M Pro3
                    Ram: 4GB DDR3-1600
                    GPU: AMD Radeon R7-260X
                    Storage drive: 256 GB TeamGroup EX2 SATA SSD
                    Optical drive: LG GH20NS15 DVD+/-RW
                    Sound card: ASUS Xonar DSX 7.1
                    PSU: Pc Power & Cooling Silencer MKIII 600W
                    Thank you for your reply this will help greatly

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