Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

[mariushm]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Uhm ... what exactly did you buy?

ebay listing says TYAN THUNDER K8WE S2881 but that's not right.

K8WE is S2895 as it says on the CD in the picture: http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=151

S2881 is K8SR: http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=115

If you got K8WE, you scored big time, that's really a nicely featured board (for an old server board).

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Went ahead and bought it... IMHO $50 shipped is a steal, esp. if it's NOS with all the goodies (including the SLI bridge).

IIRC Topcat's frankenserver was based off one of these.

Looks like my PWM CPU fans (Mounting them to my spare coolers now) and matched Quadro cards will see use. I'm also going to remove the sound card (too quiet actually) and USB card, as this board has all the USB 2.0 I need (2 full front headers, I only needed 1.5).

The only AMD chip it has is the PCI-X tunnel, which I had no issues with. All else (minus firewire and if it has the option, SCSI) is on the nforce pro 2200 chips, including the SATA II, which means I can and will go to at least one SATA optical (May eventually put a BD drive for the 2nd drive).

Since it's a new board model, It will be either Main rig 3.5 or main rig 4.

Comments?

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

you get what you barely pay for :P

I may see if I can score a K8WE or the like...

Found this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TYAN-THU...item3f252c4e20

Made an offer, I may just BIN it and be done. IIRC they have an nvidia chipset... so better w7 compat.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

unhandled exception errors.

Seems to also occur a lot with stuff of today.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

you get what you barely pay for :P

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Strike the Tuner card from the "it works" list. Found my channels but whenever I go to watch tv, both nextpvr and wintv chuck unhandled exception errors.

####!

PS- the 3ware boot screen says my BBU status is "fault". Is it just a bad battery or the whole BBU module toast (or has a bad connection)?

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Got it moved to the final location and setup (minus LCDs, I have a pair of 17" dell 175's awaiting recap).

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Installed the card; it took a while since a HDD blew a SATA jack; I was able to fix it with super glue... Looks like I should look to redoing my cable array... I wish they made 90 degree cables with a longer than normal plug... that way I wouldn't need to fish the cables under the HDD caddy handles (why I used straight plugs).

Anyway, the card works great... No issues at all.

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Sounds like a faulty CPU or faulty board. Not normal for an AMD.
That's more what I expect on an eVGA motherboard with FZs.

Nah, its the quirky amd 8111 ac'97 bridge and the fact xp x64 sp2 had the driver preloaded. I do have a spare board but a driver quirk seems more plausible, dsending volume commands to the wrong chip.

Bought a xonar dg for $30 at frys today. For $20 more I could have gotten a ds, but it seeemed like a waste... it says xp x64 is supported on both. Will try when I'm home tomorrow.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Yeah, it must be borked as every "xp x64" driver for the adi/realtek chip either BSODs during the install or causes a hard reboot during bootup after the required restart.

WAY TO F**KING GO TYAN AND AMD! YOU MADE AN x64 BOARD THAT WON'T WORK WITH ANY x64 OS! F**K YOU!

Sounds like a faulty CPU or faulty board. Not normal for an AMD.
That's more what I expect on an eVGA motherboard with FZs.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

This PC I am on is very sick not to mention its on HugesNet up in them mountains. Lar sorry I wrecked your world with that board. Its still a way good board but there are issues to be worked around. If I had tried to build a system around it that board would have already been smashed to bits. Don't give up on it. When you hit the right hardware combo its going to work just fine. I think if you go to the home page for that mobo drivers can still be found for it. I'm not trying to be a smart ass here but can you build a driver?

without the hardware specifications and years of C training and knowledge of building drivers, usually not

[Junk Parts]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

This PC I am on is very sick not to mention its on HugesNet up in them mountains. Lar sorry I wrecked your world with that board. Its still a way good board but there are issues to be worked around. If I had tried to build a system around it that board would have already been smashed to bits. Don't give up on it. When you hit the right hardware combo its going to work just fine. I think if you go to the home page for that mobo drivers can still be found for it. I'm not trying to be a smart ass here but can you build a driver?

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

I'm pretty sure I have one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102007

it has an HD header. I'll throw it in for +$15 /w the video card

That's what v2 has pretty much. No xp x64 support afaik. Granted, mines a ailenware/hp only version... but the asus option is known to have drivers.

Oh, in case the cpu z link didn't tell you, I got the ati card to work... so I don't need the nvidia card. Sorry for not clarifying that.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

I'm pretty sure I have one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102007

it has an HD header. I'll throw it in for +$15 /w the video card

[kaboom]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

I bought 4 of those boards used years ago dirt ass cheap, just to harvest the 4GB of reg/ECC ram they each had in them, I needed the 16gb for another server that used a much newer/nicer dual 940 board... I did nothing more than POST test them and sell them off cheap....including the one you're now fighting with..... I guess I should have used them as clay pigeons!!!

heehee, nice...

[Topcat]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

WAY TO F**KING GO TYAN AND AMD! YOU MADE AN x64 BOARD THAT WON'T WORK WITH ANY x64 OS! F**K YOU!

(stepping off soapbox)

I bought 4 of those boards used years ago dirt ass cheap, just to harvest the 4GB of reg/ECC ram they each had in them, I needed the 16gb for another server that used a much newer/nicer dual 940 board... I did nothing more than POST test them and sell them off cheap....including the one you're now fighting with..... I guess I should have used them as clay pigeons!!!

[kaboom]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Yeah, it must be borked as every "xp x64" driver for the adi/realtek chip either BSODs during the install or causes a hard reboot during bootup after the required restart.

WAY TO F**KING GO TYAN AND AMD! YOU MADE AN x64 BOARD THAT WON'T WORK WITH ANY x64 OS! F**K YOU!

(stepping off soapbox)

You've got my permission to remain on your soapbox- I'll share something similar that I went through.

Back around 2002-2003, I "had to have" one of those awful $100 tigerdirect MB+CPU scams. The MB was this "Albatron" KM266 thing, the CPU was a 1.3GHZ duron, with a whole 64KB of L2 cache. I even fell for the $20 case, with "power supply."

Keep reading, it gets better.

I was always having audio problems with this one. Random clicks specifically. I'd have a wav playing, and while mousing around, these little pops wouldn't go away! It was almost like conflicting/"colliding" IRQs on an old jumper based card. I tried another "power supply," this time a deer. No difference.

I fought with that stupid thing for a year or so, then gutted it and put in an Intel 865GBF with a 2GHZ prescott. Wanted a Northwood...

This was before I knew of newegg. Before that horrible Albatrash thing, I had one of those SOYOs- the bad caps weren't enough, "fake cache" was part of that deal.

What a rough "learning phase." I've gotten much better...

edit- yup, the xonar DG (what I was originally going to put in V2) has XP x64 drivers... going to try to snare one.

Ahh, you're going through the "tries multiple sound cards" phase... I don't miss those days at all. Props to you, Larry, you've got more patience than I do for that old stuff!

[ratdude747]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

May have a way out... Asus Xonar cards have HDA audio (what this case was built for, the AC97 adapter is half-functional), and they also apparently have xp x64 drivers. I may get a cheap one for cheap on ebay and see.

edit- yup, the xonar DG (what I was originally going to put in V2) has XP x64 drivers... going to try to snare one.

[ratdude747]

Maybe not.

You must have the specific driver for that setup.

This:

is a guaranteed disaster.

That AMD811 talks to the ADI/Realtek- I hate these bastard audio setups. Had an old Analog Devices Windows sound system card in my long-gone win95 system. Winblows kept insisting on "forcing" its built-in driver that supposedly matched the profile of the board's controller. The "slider" values were all wrong. I'd have full line level with "Master" maybe a third of the way up. In addition, all other sources were grossly distorted unless, they too, were about 33% or less. I'm not sure, but I think the balance controls were also reversed.

Windows always had audio problems like this on older hardware, unless it was a bog-standard SB16.

Yeah, it must be borked as every "xp x64" driver for the adi/realtek chip either BSODs during the install or causes a hard reboot during bootup after the required restart.

WAY TO F**KING GO TYAN AND AMD! YOU MADE AN x64 BOARD THAT WON'T WORK WITH ANY x64 OS! F**K YOU!

(stepping off soapbox)

you seem to be back at the drawing board. Have you tried xp32?

why do that? My 16gb of RAM goes down the toilet (I can't really do anything productive with more than 12gb under x32 even after ramdisking PAE excess). Kinda self defeating (as compared to V2), wouldn't you say?

[kaboom]

Re: Ratdude's main rig V3, maybe

Spoke too soon; the audio is borked. The realtek/ADI 1981b AC97 codec doesn't show up... but the AMD 8111 audio controller does. While I do get sound output, the volume slider/mute checkbox does nothing (stuck at full blast)

Maybe not.

You must have the specific driver for that setup.

This:

Slipstreamed SP2 (equiv of SP3 x32) and I didn't need any audio drivers... everything else I have found drivers for (even my webcam and tv tuner).

is a guaranteed disaster.

That AMD811 talks to the ADI/Realtek- I hate these bastard audio setups. Had an old Analog Devices Windows sound system card in my long-gone win95 system. Winblows kept insisting on "forcing" its built-in driver that supposedly matched the profile of the board's controller. The "slider" values were all wrong. I'd have full line level with "Master" maybe a third of the way up. In addition, all other sources were grossly distorted unless, they too, were about 33% or less. I'm not sure, but I think the balance controls were also reversed.

Windows always had audio problems like this on older hardware, unless it was a bog-standard SB16.