loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

[goontron]

It's loud in I'm starting to think it maybe dying even though it's only 2 months old and if it is could it be unloading and loading the heads to often because I hear what sounds like the head load/unload every 8 seconds and the head unload count is 340976, so is it dying can a high head unload rate kill it?

Here's the computers specs
Hdd Toshiba
Os Ubuntu
Man.compaq
Model line pesario cq57

It's never been droped otherwise.

[Gariarto]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

Hi

Go here http://storage.toshiba.com/storage-s...ies#diagnostic

and download the drive diagnostic software. Run it and see if it throws a code denoting the drive is faulty. If not then you'll have to bear it until it does fail. Hopefully within warranty.
I had a WD 500gb Blue Ed that vibrated like a single lady's personal power tool. Set the whole case to buzzing, even mounted in rubber grommets but it still runs to this day with the case sitting on 2 layers of carpet to deaden the noise !

[jetadm123]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

If it is failing, now's the time to start backing up your important files.

[lti]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

Those Toshiba diagnostic tools are for "Fujitsu branded Toshiba" drives. I don't know what that means, but they don't claim that they work with Toshiba branded drives.

The Toshiba hard drive in my laptop started making horrible noises after a few months, but Toshiba didn't find anything wrong with it. It makes a loud grinding noise once every couple of minutes.

[ben7]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

Those Toshiba diagnostic tools are for "Fujitsu branded Toshiba" drives. I don't know what that means, but they don't claim that they work with Toshiba branded drives.

The Toshiba hard drive in my laptop started making horrible noises after a few months, but Toshiba didn't find anything wrong with it. It makes a loud grinding noise once every couple of minutes.

My HDD in my toshiba laptop is a Hitachi.

It does make a single click sound every once in a while. But, it is two years old - and the diagnostic software shows nothing wrong. I think it is normal.

[Wester547]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

^ That clicking sound could be head parking if APM is enabled. And if the S.M.A.R.T. status looks okay on the Toshiba HDD then I wouldn't worry about it, but if it frets you I would download a utility such as HDDScan and disable APM (thusly disabling head parking). However, I've never seen a Toshiba HDD have more than a 1 year warranty and I've never heard of a Toshiba HDD lasting that long (not to scare anyone), so....

[Gariarto]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

Hmm. The Toshiba website does lead to believe that their HDs are Fujitsu.
I have no reference to go by. More and more manufacturers are 'farming out production' and badging for the purchasing company. BUT

What we're trying to achieve is finding out if the drive has tripped SMART (which you should have seen if monitoring is enabled in your BIOS) or is about to. My focus would be proving a fault for warranty purposes and getting it out of my laptop. I can't rest if I know a drive is potentially unreliable, but thats me.

Perhaps try this http://www.altrixsoft.com/en/hddinsp/ trial download. It will show you a whole lot more AND tell you what the drive manufacturer really is. Not that the maker matters if the drive is original with the laptop, at 2 months old its under warranty along with the whole machine. Unless its a new drive you've bought and fitted recently. In which case you still have at least 10 months coverage.

In any event jetadm123 is right, Backup !

[goontron]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

Hdd parm the s.m.a.r.t program of Ubuntu shows excessive head unloading and that APM is inabled
And .exe is not Linux programs other than that all is ok from s.m.a.r.t so should I wory?

[Gariarto]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

Sorry, I missed the OS being Linux, my bad, I have my head so stuck in Windows of late.

OK, well if SMART isn't showing a fatal error then you shouldn't have to worry.
In a Linux based system then, I agree with Wester547 about the APM settings.
Check this out https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Known_issues

[goontron]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

It is not on the list but that's what I'm hering the heads.loading l/unloading but no bloody fix

[Moinaldo]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

Sorry, I missed the OS being Linux, my bad, I have my head so stuck in Windows of late.

OK, well if SMART isn't showing a fatal error then you shouldn't have to worry.
In a Linux based system then, I agree with Wester547 about the APM settings.
Check this out https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Known_issues

That would be the right answer 99% of time, but sometimes there are some drives that have wrong SMART reads, I.E. huge amount of "power on hours", "start/stop counts", etc... so I learned not to completely trust SMART tests if you suspect a drive might fail.

[Gariarto]

Re: loud 2 month old 250gb toshiba laptop harddrive

That would be the right answer 99% of time, but sometimes there are some drives that have wrong SMART reads, I.E. huge amount of "power on hours", "start/stop counts", etc... so I learned not to completely trust SMART tests if you suspect a drive might fail.

The "wrong data" you are reading may not be wrong, but misread. Different HD manufacturers use different measurement methods. Each attribute has a raw value, whose meaning is entirely up to the drive manufacturer (but often corresponds to counts or a physical unit, such as degrees Celsius, hours, seconds, milliseconds. Its knowing what form the data has been stored in that counts.

Most free software utilities you can download show a choice of raw data, usually hex and decimal integer format. Raw hex is useful for determining when a single 8-digit SMART field is being used for split high/low counters, where the first four digits represent one attribute and the last 4 represent either a separate attribute or a low threshold. Helps properly read decimal numbers that seem unrealistically high. Some makers drives report temperature as a range rather than an actual temp value, but when the double-word hex is converted to decimal, it becomes a single large number that is meaningless.

HD manufacturers STILL keep a lot of their SMART implementation close to their chest. Lord only knows why ! As far as they are concerned, as long as SMART gets 'tripped' and warns the user of failure when a threshold is reached then they've done their job. Take a look at some stats across the 'net.. Seagate drives will appear to have horrendous amounts of seek and ECC errors while Western Digital drives report MUCH less. Its the way they collect the data (if at all) and how it should be read.. From our side of the fence it will look like Western Digital have the more reliable drive ? Not really, I think its more of those clever little marketing tricks.

By the way I buy both Seagate and WD as drives of choice.