nVidia nForce Pro 2200

[shovenose]

Is this part of the faulty nVidia chipsets?
It's in a Dell PowerEdge T105.
On a tiny little heatsink that I can burn my fingers on (OUCH!) so it's getting very hot...
If it's indeed in the faulty range, I'm going to attach a fan.

[c_hegge]

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Dell T105 = Opteron 1200 series = Socket AM2 = defective. ALL socket AM2 and 775 nVidia chipsets were affected AFIK.

[mockingbird]

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Correct.

I think the AM2 Geforce 6 chipsets might last a bit longer... I wish someone would clarify a little bit what the 6 generation uses. I personally use a Geforce 6600 and I've got no problems, and I recently repaired a very small HP PC with an nVidia 6xxx chipset...

Maybe it's because they don't get hot.

[shovenose]

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Anybody else's opinion?
I'm inclined to agree/believe you. But before I start trying to ghetto-mod a fan on there I want to make sure it's not a false alarm

EDIT: OK fine I'll put a fan

[c_hegge]

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What does the current chipset heatsink look like?

[shovenose]

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Could a messed up nVidia chip cause the computer to shut off randomly?
It did it once while browsng the web and once when I tried to get the WEI assessment.

[c_hegge]

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The chipset could be overheating. Those tiny heat sinks that Hell like to use always get insanely hot, even on intel chipsets. I'd say add a fan to it and see what happens. If you have some big enough screws, you could screw a fan into the fins

[shovenose]

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The chipset could be overheating. Those tiny heat sinks that Hell like to use always get insanely hot, even on intel chipsets. I'd say add a fan to it and see what happens. If you have some big enough screws, you could screw a fan into the fins

I'm definitely going to add a fan - except I think I found the problem: PSU.
I opened it and gave it a visual check, but when I put in an Antec EarthWatts 650W I do not get any shutdowns during the CPU portion of the WEI test...
I mean, yeah, I still get a 1.0 on graphics, but at least it's stable... LOL!
I'm going to do some more testing and will add a fan...

[Scenic]

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Correct.

I think the AM2 Geforce 6 chipsets might last a bit longer... I wish someone would clarify a little bit what the 6 generation uses. I personally use a Geforce 6600 and I've got no problems, and I recently repaired a very small HP PC with an nVidia 6xxx chipset...

Maybe it's because they don't get hot.

The graphics cards from the GF6 series are something else than the chipsets though. I still have half a dozen Geforce 6 cards (6200-6800GT) which all work fine, but just about every motherboard with 6-series chipsets (GF6150) I come across is dead as a rock. Some of them have passive coolers about twice the size of the one in shovenose's pic.. doesn't really seem to help though.

[mockingbird]

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but just about every motherboard with 6-series chipsets (GF6150) I come across is dead as a rock

I just repaired a Pavillion Slimline system with one of these motherboards:


Geforce 6150LE with "nForce 430". The naming convention is a wee bit confusing, seeing as how the previous chipset was the nForce 4 which was for Socket 939. What I'm assuming is going on here is that the Northbridge is a GeForce 6 series chip, and the Southbridge is nForce 4.

I'm guessing that the Geforce 7150 IGP is where they combined the Northbridge and Southbridge into one chip (The naming convention here also confusing because "630i" motherboards use the 7150 - which probably have a 100% failure rate).

I didn't know that this board was AM2 before I repaired it, I assumed it was an nForce4 939 (But in fact it can take even a Phenom II). I totally re-capped the PSU, and changed three caps on the motherboard (Behind the row of solid caps and the inductor coils, the three Panny caps you see there were KZGs on mine).

It DOES work, but I'm not going to sell it. Thing is tiny and quiet.

[shovenose]

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I just repaired a Pavillion Slimline system with one of these motherboards:


Geforce 6150LE with "nForce 430". The naming convention is a wee bit confusing, seeing as how the previous chipset was the nForce 4 which was for Socket 939. What I'm assuming is going on here is that the Northbridge is a GeForce 6 series chip, and the Southbridge is nForce 4.

I'm guessing that the Geforce 7150 IGP is where they combined the Northbridge and Southbridge into one chip (The naming convention here also confusing because "630i" motherboards use the 7150 - which probably have a 100% failure rate).

I didn't know that this board was AM2 before I repaired it, I assumed it was an nForce4 939 (But in fact it can take even a Phenom II). I totally re-capped the PSU, and changed three caps on the motherboard (Behind the row of solid caps and the inductor coils, the three Panny caps you see there were KZGs on mine).

It DOES work, but I'm not going to sell it. Thing is tiny and quiet.

My main (Compaq) PC and my other server has exactly that chipset... and they both work fine... so sshhhh don't tell it it's faulty

[ratdude747]

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I didn't know that this board was AM2 before I repaired it, I assumed it was an nForce4 939 (But in fact it can take even a Phenom II).

Little tip for next time:

DDR- 939 or 940
DDR2- AM2 or later

(it has to do with the CPU's memory controller)

[Scenic]

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That strange form factor is called DTX btw. Basically mini ITX with one more slot. (and in case of the board in the picture, a proprietary PSU connector)

[ratdude747]

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That strange form factor is called DTX btw. Basically mini ITX with one more slot. (and in case of the board in the picture, a proprietary PSU connector)

FWIW, unless I chopped the wire from it, I have a loose pigtail to one of those... I got an ac-bell PSU with that for free which was parted out... it used standard wire colors so one could splice it to either a PSU or to a male ATX connector (to make an adapter).

[Scenic]

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it used standard wire colors so one could splice it to either a PSU or to a male ATX connector (to make an adapter).

Or just buy one if you're lazy

[mockingbird]

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DDR- 939 or 940
DDR2- AM2 or later

I repaired the PSU before even looking at the motherboard. The "M2N" gives it away ina cinch.

That strange form factor is called DTX btw

Thanks for that bit of info... I was wondering how to find the adapter for the miniaturized PSU connector... (There is no seperate P4 conector coming from the PSU - this means that I can't just use -ANY- ITX board, right?)... A sure bet mod for this particular system is to replace it with the Asus IPILP-AR Motherboard, which is the Intel equivalent of this board, and it would fit perfectly as it is meant to be used in the same chassis. But as long as it works as Shovenose says...

[ratdude747]

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Thanks for that bit of info... I was wondering how to find the adapter for the miniaturized PSU connector... (There is no seperate P4 conector coming from the PSU - this means that I can't just use -ANY- ITX board, right?)...

look at the amperage specs on the PSU... if it is heavy enough on the 12v, then you can solder in a p4 pigtail to the PSU's PCB and chop off the existing mobo connector and splice in an ATX pigtail... both pigtails can be stolen from a dead junk PSU...

[mockingbird]

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The PSU has three connectors. One is that small proprietary "DTX" connector, the other two are SATA power connectors. One for the CD, one for the HDD. Maybe a SATA power connector splitter? PSU is 160 Watts.

[ratdude747]

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The PSU has three connectors. One is that small proprietary "DTX" connector, the other two are SATA power connectors. One for the CD, one for the HDD. Maybe a SATA power connector splitter? PSU is 160 Watts.

Let's try that again:

Step 1. Look at the PSU's rating sticker and post what it says for the max amps for the 5v and 12v.

(also note, Power = volts * amps if you want to find the rail wattage)

--- after some experts have chimed in on what the psu can and cannot do-----

step 2, if there is enough juice for a 12v based system (one with the 12v plug), proceed to step 3. otherwise, the PSU by itself cannot do the job

step 3. locate a junk PSU and chop off the ATX pigtail and a the 12v pigtail at the junker's PCB

step 4. at the PCB of the good PSU, locate the 12v rail and solder in the two 12V cables into an empty area on the rail. repeat for the 12V's two ground wires, using the ground rail.

step 5. chop off the proprietary PSU connector and then splice in the ATX pigtail, matching the wire colors. use electrical tape or better yet, heat shrink to cover the solder joints (if you solder splice).

step 6. test the PSU and verify that everything works and is stable.

make sense?