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    Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

    You sure it's water based? I have strong feeling it's other way around, since KY is oil-based. I think they managed to drive ESR so low they are touching ultra-low ESR with oil based, hence the long life. Most water-based hve 1000-2000 hours. And 2200 mA is quite good for most older boards.
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      Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

      Behemot -
      WTF are you talking about? One of your fairy tales? Jeez. „True Enermax Liberty“

      That 620W model was one of the worst Enermax PSUs in history so they did several revisions and than ditched it in favour of more succesful 400- and 500W models. More succesfull = they did not burn itself and half of the computer with them so often as 620 did.
      And that is exactly the attitude and lies, that get you banned on all major Czech forums Svět Hardware, PC Tuning - just for example:


      Behemot banned everywhere

      Behemot aka Pavel Boček:
      http://www.svethardware.cz/forum/showthread.php/15537
      "Červená karta" mean Banned:
      http://forum.pctuning.cz/memberlist....rofile&u=19508


      So, for the record and not for you (because I know you response beforehand), there is what the issue on hand is:
      - Behemot have no real axperience with Enermax PSUs, just a big mouth
      (when I show facts, he did not respond to the facts, he just claiming that I tell fairytales... while anyone can judge, who recapped there (ATM) Enermax 620W Liberty and with what good results, not to mention that anyone can see, who come up with facts, not just biased claims based on own lies)
      - Behemot do even allege, that the highest from the Enermax line is the worst one, while it is known fact, that the line does not differ much, except in the rating of the components - if he just checked out the reviews, he would have know this, but his ignorance and lies are outstanding - no wonder he get called upon these lies and banned accordingly...
      - Behemot (who have proven to not have any real experience with geniune Enermax Liberty line or PSUs) even allege, that the PSUs "burn itself and half of the computer with them so often as 620 did", while this line of PSUs have the exactly protections for this case - any do they work: "Protected by OCP, OVP, UVP, OLP, SCP, and OTP for maximum safety"

      On the other hand, I respect that Behemot can apply well some of the knowledge he sniffed out of me and HoNY and he do a reasonably good job when recapping.

      There is just the lies and horrible attitude he have against others that get him into troubles
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        Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

        trodas - you will never be even half the man Behemot is.
        "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

        -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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          Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

          Just for the record - mr. Administrator of PCTf is crazy idiot who is healing his complexes on users, many good people have been forced to leave PC tuning forums in last aprox. 5 years since he took power.

          As for SHW and mr. Polívka, it's similar, that guy is not able to fulfill his promises what made me somewhat angry so I left that thing. Than after some time, I wanted to visit daughter forum (about TV technics), soon after that I have been banned for pointing out their new "wonderfull" login systems does not work despite lies he's been saying. Criticism is not allowed there. Once again, many good people have been forced from there, that forum has basically died many years ago thanks to him.

          I have no regrets for being banned by idiots. After all, criticism from idiot is the best recommendation!

          As for Trodas - without lowering to his level, just generally, he is…known for his wild theories and behaviour which quite often have the dimensions of fairy tales. I would not bother with him, he will move trolling to other forums sooner rather than later
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            Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

            Just for future reference, I would be willing to put money down on custom Samxon GT, or Chemi-Con KY/KYA. Up to $100

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              Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

              I've found some new interesting model lines, especialy KZM/KZH, and also others from Nichicon and Panasonic, actually already in Mouser. Will order soon (mostly some D8x20 mm for displays). Distributor should also have samples of those KYA 3300 uF/6,3 V on the way.
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                Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                I got a message, D10x20 mm genuine NCC KYA (16 V, 25 V and 35 V) should arrive during april.
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                  Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                  ^
                  in 3300uF capacitance?

                  Reason i ask is because 2200uF 16V and 3300uF 6.3V in 10mm diameter are nothing new. Panny FK have been available in those sizes for a while now.
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                    Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                    In 20 mm height? I write it ofr like 3rd time here, these are for displays, 1500, 1000 and 680 uF.

                    I'll get samples of 3300 uF/6,3 V. They have somewhat higher ESR but almost twice the load life.
                    Last edited by Behemot; 01-20-2014, 05:08 PM.
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                      Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                      I think I spotted UCC 16V 3300uF caps in 10mm again not too long ago. I forgot to post it then, so here it is now:



                      It is from JonnyGuru's Superflower Leadex Gold 1300W review. I *think* they're 10mm. could be 12.5mm though.
                      "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                      -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                        Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                        They're 10mm. Look at how they compare to the size of those TO-220 rectifiers. The diameter of a TO-220 package is about 10mm as well, so 12.5mm caps would look quite a bit wider, where as those caps look about the same diameter as the rectifiers. I would love some of those!

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                          Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                          Will you put your money where your mouth is, so-to-speak, if we do a group buy of these ?
                          "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                          -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                            Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                            Sure! If they were KY or KYA I'd go up to $120. I know I said $100 a month ago but I changed my mind I've been getting more things to recap so I would love to have these on hand.

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                              Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                              Link?
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                                Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                                Link to what? The review? Just in case... http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=367

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                                  Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                                  Those are either heavily custom, or fakes. There is not even model line. Don't have time now to investigate further, if you do, try to find other reviews and photos. Have to go now…
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                                    Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                                    Certainly not fakes! The PSU also uses UCC polymers. Obviously these were custom made for Superflower.
                                    "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                                    -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                                      Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                                      I'd be interested to know what series the NCCs are on that PSU. Going by the shots in TPU's review, they look like W series (which doesn't seem to exist) http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/S...00F14MG/4.html
                                      I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                                      No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                                        Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                                        That's why I said very custom. But the vents are suspiciously shiny. Original NCCs have dim aluminium can, not polished
                                        Last edited by Behemot; 01-22-2014, 01:47 PM.
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                                          Re: 3300uF low-ESR caps suitable to PSUs in D10mm - may be possible!!

                                          They do look strangely shiny, but I'm sure Super Flower knows what they're doing, and probably deals directly with NCC. There's no way they'd risk using possibly fake caps especially in a 1300W unit

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