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  • lordkev
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    • Jun 2015
    • 7
    • St Kitts

    #1

    Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

    Hi, I'd appreciate any help. Bought a non-working Samsung UN40H5203AF LED TV today. I've done the flashlight test and I do get a picture, but the LED backlighting doesn't come on. I've also tried disconnecting the main board from the PSU / LED driver and they still don't come on.

    It seems likely to be either the PSU or a blown LED, but I'm not sure which.

    Here are the voltages measured on connector CNL802:

    1 D+ (no wire here): 209
    2 D+: 209
    3 S1-: 57
    4 S2+: 57
    5 NC (no wire here): 0
    6 S2-: 30
    7 S3+: 29
    8 D-: Started at 40 and steadily dropped until settling around 23
    9 D- (no wire here): Started around 60 and steadily dropped until settling around 19
    Last edited by lordkev; 06-06-2015, 11:00 PM.
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

    Looks like open connection to the LED assembly or bad LED (open circuit).
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • lordkev
      New Member
      • Jun 2015
      • 7
      • St Kitts

      #3
      Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

      Do you know how I get at them to replace them? (If I'm able to find replacements)

      I've tried searching all over and haven't been able to find any disassembly instructions that go down that far. I tried taking the front bezel off and with the panel separated I could see them behind the diffuser, but going through the front didn't seem to be the correct way.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

        You have to go through the front, the frame has come off, the LCD glass panel has to come off which is the most delicate piece, then the diffusers, etc.
        You should practice on the broken panel first if you have never done one before.
        I do not know if your panel is edge lit or backlit and you do have to tools to do the LED replacement or not.
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46403
        Last edited by budm; 06-06-2015, 11:49 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • victor_cj
          Senior Member
          • May 2015
          • 90
          • Romania

          #5
          Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

          Guide yourself from my pictures, different model.
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          The art of fighting without fighting

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          • thoma
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Sep 2012
            • 268
            • Germany

            #6
            Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

            Is there a servicemanual or training available?
            regards thoma

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            • lordkev
              New Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 7
              • St Kitts

              #7
              Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

              Originally posted by victor_cj
              Guide yourself from my pictures, different model.
              This one is backlit instead of sidelit, so it's a bit different. I'll get it figured out though.

              Thanks for the pictures

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              • lordkev
                New Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 7
                • St Kitts

                #8
                Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

                Originally posted by budm
                You have to go through the front, the frame has come off, the LCD glass panel has to come off which is the most delicate piece, then the diffusers, etc.
                You should practice on the broken panel first if you have never done one before.
                I do not know if your panel is edge lit or backlit and you do have to tools to do the LED replacement or not.
                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=46403
                This looks very similar to how mine is setup. Thanks!

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                • lordkev
                  New Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 7
                  • St Kitts

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

                  Ok, a little more diagnostic info. I was able to get to the strips. There are 3 LED strips. All the LEDs appear to be lit, but extremely faintly. Have to put a towel over my head to see them.

                  I measured about 120V across the top strip, but only ~17V across the middle and bottom strips.

                  Also, at one point I accidentally had my meter in continuity/diode test mode instead of voltage when connecting across the +/- terminals on the first strip. The middle and bottom strips immediately lit up to full brightness while I did this.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

                    Looks like the top strip has high resistance.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • lordkev
                      New Member
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 7
                      • St Kitts

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

                      This is really strange. I swapped the top and bottom LED strips which appear to be the same, and BINGO all the backlighting turned on. We'll see if it lasts, but for now I'm a happy camper.

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

                        H series set, isn't this TV less than a year old?
                        Samsung might cover it under a warranty program.
                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

                          Originally posted by lordkev
                          This is really strange. I swapped the top and bottom LED strips which appear to be the same, and BINGO all the backlighting turned on. We'll see if it lasts, but for now I'm a happy camper.
                          May be the connectors are not seated properly?
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • ziddey
                            Member
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 35
                            • usa

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung UN40H5203AF LED backlight out

                            Originally posted by lordkev
                            This is really strange. I swapped the top and bottom LED strips which appear to be the same, and BINGO all the backlighting turned on. We'll see if it lasts, but for now I'm a happy camper.
                            Hah. Is your TV still working? Picked up the same model today with exactly the same results as yours. Saw a burn mark on the top strip.

                            Swapped it with the bottom, and sure enough, all the LEDs are evenly lit. Individual LED resistance seems to be all over the place though.


                            Update: Welp, either the original owner damaged the ribbon cable or I did. Screen was working except for one vertical line (can still be seen in perfect black) on the left side. I fidgeted with the ribbon while it was on (dumb) and burnt my finger / saw the ribbon fry.

                            What a shame.
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                            Last edited by ziddey; 11-15-2016, 12:24 AM.

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