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  • jose6326
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2013
    • 707
    • USA

    #1

    samsung hp-t5054 no power

    so i did a search for my issues and nothing came up closely related to the issues i am having

    only thing i read was faulty ic's on the upper buffer boards

    i am having issues with the psu
    i disconnected all of the cables going to the psu
    i get nothing close to the voltage readings specified on the sticker for vs or va
    all fuses checked good

    i did a search for the board on ebay
    and there are a few sellers selling repair kits that include 2 mosfets and 4 really small resistors you can barely see
    on the sellers page it said these are a common component to fail
    but of course i rather get my answers here

    so i tested 4 mosfets but i dont know if they are shorted or not

    here is are the readings on diode mode

    mosfet #1
    1-2 = ofl
    2-3 = .503
    1-3 = .007

    mosfet #2
    1-2 = ofl
    2-3 = .504
    1-3 = .007

    Mosfet #3
    1-2 = ofl
    2-3 = .419
    1-3 = .036

    Mosfet #4
    1-2 = ofl
    2-3 = .415
    1-3 = .036
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    Last edited by jose6326; 01-29-2015, 09:54 PM.
  • jose6326
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2013
    • 707
    • USA

    #2
    Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

    I will post pics of the other boards if needed

    I dont think its needed now since I believe the problem is with the psu

    If I am wrong let me know and I will post pictures


    Thanks

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    • freakaftr8
      Badcaps Legend
      • Oct 2012
      • 3743
      • USA

      #3
      Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

      Tour mosfets don't sound shorted. What happens when only xmain is connected?
      Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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      • tw2005
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        • Oct 2011
        • 6458
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

        From what you listed they are shorted. common issue with these is the solder fractures on the fets and I think that is when they blow, often the PSU just clicks on and off and they can blow. Other times depending on heat the TV can fire up and then randomly shutdown.

        i've also got the same PSu , which I'm reluctant to fix because the ymain and buffer is also fried, a lot of work but you'll find transistors, maybe resistors but more importantly a bunch of smd diodes underside that will be shorted also need replacement.

        this kit from shopjimmy is closer to the mark for what you'll need

        http://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn4...repair-kit.htm

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        • tw2005
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          • Oct 2011
          • 6458
          • Australia

          #5
          Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

          Originally posted by freakaftr8
          Tour mosfets don't sound shorted. What happens when only xmain is connected?
          oh, I was thinking they were? what about the 0.037 and 0.007 readings on pins 1-3? Is that normal for these?

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          • freakaftr8
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            • Oct 2012
            • 3743
            • USA

            #6
            Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

            Now that I thought about it Im not too sure about the readings between pins 1 and 3. Sounds fishy.
            Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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            • tw2005
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              • Oct 2011
              • 6458
              • Australia

              #7
              Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

              Originally posted by freakaftr8
              Now that I thought about it Im not too sure about the readings between pins 1 and 3. Sounds fishy.
              probably need to know in or out of cct?

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              • tw2005
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2011
                • 6458
                • Australia

                #8
                Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                This is a parts list for a samsung 50" PSU I have which I believe is the same as yours, may be worth looking at these parts.

                F802 T8AH, 250V
                QS801,QS802 FQA18N50
                DS801,802 kds184
                .( RX867, RX869), (RX862 and RX878). 20ohm (2012)
                RX863 and RX868 10kohm (2012)

                DX803,DX804 KDS184
                RX802, RX803, RX832, RX833 100 (2012)
                QX801 and QX802 FQPF11N50

                RX804 and RX805 10k ohm (2012)

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                • jose6326
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2013
                  • 707
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                  Originally posted by freakaftr8
                  tour mosfets don't sound shorted. What happens when only xmain is connected?


                  i will reinstall the psu and connect the xmain to see what happens

                  do you expect anything to happen since the psu is not delivering the necessary voltages to the boards?

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                  • jose6326
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • May 2013
                    • 707
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                    Originally posted by tw2005
                    probably need to know in or out of cct?
                    I will remove the fets and test out of circuit today

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                    • jose6326
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • May 2013
                      • 707
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                      Originally posted by tw2005
                      From what you listed they are shorted. common issue with these is the solder fractures on the fets and I think that is when they blow, often the PSU just clicks on and off and they can blow. Other times depending on heat the TV can fire up and then randomly shutdown.

                      i've also got the same PSu , which I'm reluctant to fix because the ymain and buffer is also fried, a lot of work but you'll find transistors, maybe resistors but more importantly a bunch of smd diodes underside that will be shorted also need replacement.

                      this kit from shopjimmy is closer to the mark for what you'll need

                      http://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn4...repair-kit.htm
                      they are out of stock on this repair kit at shopjimmy

                      how do I find out what each component is so I can try to locate them at digikey?

                      I shouldn't have an issue with the mosfets but the smd resistors and diodes I will have an issue finding

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                      • tw2005
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 6458
                        • Australia

                        #12
                        Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                        Originally posted by jose6326
                        they are out of stock on this repair kit at shopjimmy

                        how do I find out what each component is so I can try to locate them at digikey?

                        I shouldn't have an issue with the mosfets but the smd resistors and diodes I will have an issue finding
                        Ah, post #8

                        Is the board number the same as the file name. when using the schematic be mindful it covers 42 & 50" so the transistors are different but you have yours to go by.
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                        Last edited by tw2005; 01-30-2015, 07:06 PM.

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                        • jose6326
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                          • May 2013
                          • 707
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                          #13
                          Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                          Originally posted by tw2005
                          Ah, post #8

                          Is the board number the same as the file name. when using the schematic be mindful it covers 42 & 50" so the transistors are different but you have yours to go by.

                          yes the file name and board number is the same



                          thanks

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                          • jose6326
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • May 2013
                            • 707
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                            how do I find these parts on digikey?

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                            • ricosavy
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 457
                              • united states

                              #15
                              Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                              You need to check your ymain the mosfets on these short out and will usually take out your upper buffer board.

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                              • jose6326
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • May 2013
                                • 707
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                                Ok I will check those as well

                                But I still need to find the parts for the psu

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                                • tw2005
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2011
                                  • 6458
                                  • Australia

                                  #17
                                  Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                                  Originally posted by jose6326
                                  Ok I will check those as well

                                  But I still need to find the parts for the psu
                                  kds184, use 1ss184

                                  SIHG20N50C-E3-ND,

                                  http://www.digikey.com.au/product-se...ords=FQPF11N50

                                  or try ebay, utsource

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                                  • flocko
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Nov 2012
                                    • 1121
                                    • uk

                                    #18
                                    Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                                    Hi best to check power board with just the mains connected, on the white connector first test for 5v stby, if that is there put ps.on to ground the relay should come in,if it does check all small voltages, then connect the 5v stby to Vs on, this will bring Vs voltage up as well. when checking the four FETs do so with meter set at 200 ohms you will see 11 ohms between pin 1-3 , the rest should be open 1-2 and 2-3 hope this is of some help
                                    Flocko

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                                    • jose6326
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • May 2013
                                      • 707
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                                      Originally posted by flocko
                                      hi best to check power board with just the mains connected, on the white connector first test for 5v stby, if that is there put ps.on to ground the relay should come in,if it does check all small voltages, then connect the 5v stby to vs on, this will bring vs voltage up as well. When checking the four fets do so with meter set at 200 ohms you will see 11 ohms between pin 1-3 , the rest should be open 1-2 and 2-3 hope this is of some help
                                      flocko
                                      i did check the white connectors with all main boards connected

                                      i get nothing close to 5v
                                      i think i need to replace the components on the psu then work my way to the ymain

                                      but i want to order all of the parts i need so i am not making multiple orders and waiting for it to come in
                                      and if i have parts the dont need replacing i dont mind having spare parts

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                                      • ricosavy
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                                        • Jul 2012
                                        • 457
                                        • united states

                                        #20
                                        Re: samsung hp-t5054 no power

                                        the reading you are saying you have on those components are good they are not shorted the power supply is not working because it is not being turned on.I was helping a friend fix his tvs both same model hpt5054 both would not turn on the upper buffer board shorted out and took out the ymain and the logic board.I would check ymain first check the ones attached to these heat sinks also under number 1 heat sink the is a surface mount mosfet that shorts out part number is B20NK50Z.the two surface mount ones in the circle usually don't short out but i would check them.
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