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  • RFurball
    New Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 7
    • US

    #1

    PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

    I have a Samsung PN43D450A2DXZA TV which has no video output. Audio works fine. Reading a similar post on this forum https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=37000 it seems the X and Y main boards are likely the culprits.

    I opened the TV and first measured the Vs and Va voltages. They briefly came up to their correct values then decayed to 0V. Next I removed both the X-main and Y-main boards and measured for shorts across all transistors. I did not find any shorts.

    I next took a gamble and bought an X-main and a Y-main board on eBay. Alas putting these boards in did not fix the problem. Either one of these boards are also bad or it is another problem. I suppose it could be the Y buffer boards. I do not want to dump a whole lot more money into this TV but if there are any other quick checks I can try I would be appreciative.
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

    No cracks on the panel, even on the edge?

    Try checking the Y-buffer:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51SZ...Y&noredirect=1
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • Shinju
      Badcaps Legend
      • Mar 2014
      • 1239
      • USA

      #3
      Re: PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

      The SMPS will not power on with both x and y out of circuit, how I tested mine to find the xmain was at fault was to pull the power plug to the x board keeping all other boards in circuit and the panel powered up (no picture of course) but I was able to check voltages on the y-main and SMPS as well.

      Also once you get this up and running update the firmware ASAP they have a fix for these generation of PDP displays to prevent future failures.

      Chances are you got bad parts and like tom66 has suggested test your buffers and look for cracks.

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      • RFurball
        New Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 7
        • US

        #4
        Re: PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

        Thanks for the replies I will check the Y buffer board as mentioned. That looks like a fairly simple task. There is one small hole in the screen but no cracks. It looks like a the type of hole you get on your windshield when a small rock hits it. Can that be the cause of the short?

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        • tvsteve2
          Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 25
          • usa

          #5
          Re: PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

          Yes these Samsungs have no protective glass infront of the display like an LG has making it fragile and the damage may have vented the display

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          • Shinju
            Badcaps Legend
            • Mar 2014
            • 1239
            • USA

            #6
            Re: PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

            Can you post a photo of said hole?

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

              Originally posted by RFurball
              Thanks for the replies I will check the Y buffer board as mentioned. That looks like a fairly simple task. There is one small hole in the screen but no cracks. It looks like a the type of hole you get on your windshield when a small rock hits it. Can that be the cause of the short?
              This kills the panel.

              It's a known defect with the glass. It's usually not impact damage but thermal expansion. Software update may correct driver algorithm to fix this. The fact that Samsung did not recall the D-series for cracking panels shows how much the company stands behind its products.
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • RFurball
                New Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 7
                • US

                #8
                Re: PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

                I added a picture of the crack. Sorry for the quality but cell phone cameras are pretty lame, but it shows the hole with cracks propagating out from it. The cracks are about 0.5 - 0.75 inches long.. It is bigger than I thought, it must of the cracks must have propagated as I moved the TV from my vacation house.

                I will still check the boards for shorts since I have an identical model of this television and can use the boards if they fail. I will toss the chassis and screen.
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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: PN43D450A2DXZA has no Video

                  Yeah, sorry, that's a fatal fault there.
                  Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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