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  • Michale32086
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    #21
    Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

    Originally posted by whiz62
    tw2005 is right. I am just a beginer but know you have to have the voltages present. In my case Vs was supossed to be 209vdc and when powered on it would come up and then drop off rapidly. These folks here on the forum know their stuff and have taught me a lot. Live and learn, only way to be.
    Re confirmed the voltages and left the unit on for a min or so past the SAMSUNG tones...

    Voltage held steady on both X and Y at 211v with minor fluctuation to 212v now and again..

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    • whiz62
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      #22
      Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

      good you got vs voltage. does that match close with printed sticker on back plate? sticker should be mounted to metal back where boards are screwed on. have you checked va and ve?

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      • Michale32086
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        #23
        Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

        Yea, sticker shows VS 210v, so that checks..

        There is a VA that shows 55v and that checks on the Y-Main...

        There is a Ve that shows 88 and a Vsc that shows -193 on the sticker, but I can't find those designations on the X and Y connectors.

        There IS a Vg on the X-Main connector which shows 15.37v
        Last edited by Michale32086; 12-25-2014, 06:44 PM.

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        • whiz62
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          #24
          Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

          If I remember correctly, vsc is on a test point on the y main board. maybe someone else can guide you further. looks like you have proper voltages so far. make sure all all cables and connectors are properly plugged in. I have found myself not doing that.

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          • whiz62
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            #25
            Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

            ve should also be on y main board if it is similar to my samsung.

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            • Michale32086
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              #26
              Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

              Yea, I have taken off every board and every cable and then replaced them...

              There IS a Vsched pad and a Vscan pad on the Y-Main but I am not real thrilled about testing them if I don't have to..

              But the Ve/88v designation is no where to be found.. Unless the Ve=Vg and, in that case, the voltage is WAY off...

              On the X-Main, the Vg voltage is 15.37v and on the Y-Main, Vg is also 15.37v...

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              • tw2005
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                #27
                Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                Originally posted by Michale32086
                Yea, sticker shows VS 210v, so that checks..

                There is a VA that shows 55v and that checks on the Y-Main...

                There is a Ve that shows 88 and a Vsc that shows -193 on the sticker, but I can't find those designations on the X and Y connectors.

                There IS a Vg on the X-Main connector which shows 15.37v




                Have a read and see if these help. I'd check and find all of those voltages and if they are good then maybe it's a bad logic board or panel (maybe) , Someone may know a bit more with these samsungs. probably be a bit quiet for help over christmas / new year though.

                may not match your model exactly but the principles should help

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                • whiz62
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                  #28
                  Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                  It is there somewhere. took me awhile to find it. gonna say goodnite and check on family.. have a good safe evening.

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                  • Michale32086
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                    #29
                    Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                    OK I found Ve..

                    It's on the X-MAIN and it's a free-standing pad.. Nothing to wedge on to..
                    Attached Files

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                    • Michale32086
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                      #30
                      Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                      Yea, getting ready to crash myself..

                      Gonna test the Ve and then hit the sack...

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                      • tw2005
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                        #31
                        Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                        Originally posted by Michale32086
                        OK I found Ve..

                        It's on the X-MAIN and it's a free-standing pad.. Nothing to wedge on to..
                        Was just about to tell you, just probe it with respect to gnd. You are using a proper meter with insulated probes?

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                        • Michale32086
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                          #32
                          Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                          OK, I survived!!

                          I had the wife plug the unit in while I held the probe on Ve...

                          Checked out.. 88v solid and steady..

                          So, to sum up.. All the voltages on the X-Main and Y-Main are as they are displayed on the sticker...

                          Thanx for all the help to date.. It's a lot easier to gin up the courage to check voltages when I have smart people helping

                          I'll follow up in the morning..

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                          • Michale32086
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                            #33
                            Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                            Originally posted by tw2005
                            Was just about to tell you, just probe it with respect to gnd. You are using a proper meter with insulated probes?
                            Here's what I have at home...

                            "It's what we got.."
                            -Benjamin Bratt, DEMOLITION MAN

                            Attached Files

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                            • tw2005
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                              #34
                              Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                              When you did the Logic board forced operation test, was the white ribbon(LVDS) that goes from the main board to the logic board disconnected? try it again .

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                              • Michale32086
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                                #35
                                Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                                Yep, it was disconnected.

                                I ran another test..

                                I disconnect the Main Board completely from the unit.

                                1 and 5 Pin jumpered on the 24-pn connector and 3 and 4 jumpered on the 4-pn jumper block on the Logic Board.

                                When I plug in the unit, I get the click-click of a relay, the LED on the Logic Board blinks steady and absolutely nothing comes up on the screen..

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                                • tw2005
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                                  Originally posted by Michale32086
                                  Yep, it was disconnected.

                                  I ran another test..

                                  I disconnect the Main Board completely from the unit.

                                  1 and 5 Pin jumpered on the 24-pn connector and 3 and 4 jumpered on the 4-pn jumper block on the Logic Board.

                                  When I plug in the unit, I get the click-click of a relay, the LED on the Logic Board blinks steady and absolutely nothing comes up on the screen..
                                  if all the voltages are present and normal, it may be worthwhile gambling on a logic board if not too expensive. anything in those guides to help confirm bad logic?

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                                  • Michale32086
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                                    I did run Tom66's Logic Board Test here:

                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...61&postcount=2

                                    No change on anything...

                                    I might have a spare logic board at the shop...

                                    Barring that, I can get one on EBAY for $16....

                                    I'll check at my shop in a couple hours when I get there...

                                    Thanx TW

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                                    • tw2005
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                                      Originally posted by Michale32086
                                      I did run Tom66's Logic Board Test here:

                                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...61&postcount=2

                                      No change on anything...

                                      I might have a spare logic board at the shop...

                                      Barring that, I can get one on EBAY for $16....

                                      I'll check at my shop in a couple hours when I get there...

                                      Thanx TW
                                      If you have a spare, that would be handy,

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                                      • Michale32086
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                                        #39
                                        Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                                        You gonna be around for a few hours?? It's 0548hrs here right now.. I should be at my shop no later than 0830....

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                                        • tw2005
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Continuing Education Checking Voltages PN50B430P2DXZA Sound Nothing Else

                                          Originally posted by Michale32086
                                          You gonna be around for a few hours?? It's 0548hrs here right now.. I should be at my shop no later than 0830....
                                          We'll see, that would be 1130pm.

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