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  • adaugaard
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    • Jul 2014
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    • denmark

    #1

    Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the house

    Model nr.: UE32D5005

    inside of the frame is a number called:
    LTJ320HN01-J

    The lightning hit just outside our house and fried our Samsung TV and out toaster. Funny enough it did not do anything to our new LG 55".

    Anything I could do to try to fix it guys ?
    I tried to measure the fuse (marked as 1 in the picture) with my multimeter and it looks fine... or it gives resistance if that is the correct english word.

    I have ofcorse measures the power cord and where it goes into the tv... measuring 230v here in denmark.

    Any other logic steps to I should measure - be aware im fairly new in this so hope for your understanding that im a liiiiiitle sloooooowwww

    I tried to give each part numbers in the picture making it more easy for you to referer to a part.. and also helping me with understading what you talk about

    I also upload a picture of my multimeter since im a little unsure what it should be on when measuring other things than the fuze resistance.

    Big regards from Denmark
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  • multimeter
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2011
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    #2
    Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

    what is the resistance reading off of the part numberd 3?,1?
    fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

    ----------------------------------------------
    please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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    • adaugaard
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      #3
      Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

      My multimeter is on "6 o'clock" for this meassure.. ohm 200 it says - asume that is the correct place yes

      On nr 1. I have cliped one of the legs from the curcit, for giving a clearer meassure (correct me if thats a wrong way do do it.

      Anyway nr 1. (the fuse) meassures around 00,9

      Nr 3 i still fully installed on the curcit - when i try to meassure it it gives no response at all... is that because i need to get it out of the curcit first ?

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      • adaugaard
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        #4
        Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

        My multimeter is on "6 o'clock" for this meassure.. ohm 200 it says - asume that is the correct place yes

        On nr 1. I have cliped one of the legs from the curcit, for giving a clearer meassure (correct me if thats a wrong way do do it.

        Anyway nr 1. (the fuse) meassures around 00,9

        Nr 3 i still fully installed on the curcit - when i try to meassure it it gives no response at all... is that because i need to get it out of the curcit first ?

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

          That indicates the fuse is not blown and the surge protector device is also OK.
          CAREFULLY, with your meter on the 1000V DC range, check the voltage between "-" and "+" of the device marked 18. For 230V country, around 320V is expected.
          Last edited by tom66; 07-26-2014, 10:42 AM.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • adaugaard
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            #6
            Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

            Originally posted by tom66
            That indicates the fuse is not blown and the surge protector device is also OK.
            CAREFULLY, with your meter on the 1000V DC range, check the voltage between "-" and "+" of the device marked 18. For 230V country, around 320V is expected.
            Should the power cord be on when doing this ? or is it because there is so much power "stored" in the unit im going to messure ?

            The messure I did before was with the power cord out - please correct me if that is wrong.

            Again thanx for understanding... im not very pro in this world

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            • adaugaard
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              #7
              Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

              I made the reading with out power cord plugged in.

              It meassures nothing when the multimeter is in the position like the picture i attached. DCV 1000.
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              • multimeter
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jan 2011
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                #8
                Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                Originally posted by adaugaard
                I made the reading with out power cord plugged in.

                It meassures nothing when the multimeter is in the position like the picture i attached. DCV 1000.
                take reading with power applied,your varistor and fuse are ok as per tested
                fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                ----------------------------------------------
                please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                • adaugaard
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                  Originally posted by multimeter
                  take reading with power applied,your varistor and fuse are ok as per tested
                  Same with or without power
                  on 1000v dc it says 001

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                  • multimeter
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 739
                    • united kingdom

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                    can you post up a pic of the whole board,and also one of the underside (trace side)
                    fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                    ----------------------------------------------
                    please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                    • adaugaard
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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                      Originally posted by multimeter
                      can you post up a pic of the whole board,and also one of the underside (trace side)
                      Hey Multimeter.. sure can.. front and backside are attached here.
                      The frontside have full sets of numbers. Some of the pieces with 4 legs i have given a "a,b,c,d" maybe making it more easy to explain what to meassure on those units.

                      thanx
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                      • multimeter
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 739
                        • united kingdom

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                        on the large filter capacitor (16 or 17) measure from negative lead with the stripe, to the fuse (1) meter set to ac highest setting,need to see if there is power getting to the board,.measure with power applied

                        also what resistance reading do you get on the part not marked, black disk with DSC next to the transformer marked (11)?,this is your thermistor ,should be around 30 ish ohms when cold.

                        and measure the voltage across the leads of caps 16 and 17,meter set to 1000VDC with power applied,carefull this may have high voltage on it 320+ DCV in an ideal world.
                        fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                        ----------------------------------------------
                        please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                        • adaugaard
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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                          Originally posted by multimeter
                          on the large filter capacitor (16 or 17) measure from negative lead with the stripe, to the fuse (1) meter set to ac highest setting,need to see if there is power getting to the board,.measure with power applied

                          also what resistance reading do you get on the part not marked, black disk with DSC next to the transformer marked (11)?,this is your thermistor ,should be around 30 ish ohms when cold.

                          and measure the voltage across the leads of caps 16 and 17,meter set to 1000VDC with power applied,carefull this may have high voltage on it 320+ DCV in an ideal world.

                          Originally posted by multimeter
                          on the large filter capacitor (16 or 17) measure from negative lead with the stripe, to the fuse (1) meter set to ac highest setting,need to see if there is power getting to the board,.measure with power applied

                          also what resistance reading do you get on the part not marked, black disk with DSC next to the transformer marked (11)?,this is your thermistor ,should be around 30 ish ohms when cold.

                          and measure the voltage across the leads of caps 16 and 17,meter set to 1000VDC with power applied,carefull this may have high voltage on it 320+ DCV in an ideal world.



                          Hey Multimeter.
                          I attached a new picture with letters on each "leg" on each part now also... since it requires that i thing when explaining...

                          I made a big error at the start up (and one on the end of this comment).

                          1.Startup error
                          Pretty simple i know but the fuze leg was cut off when messuring the resistance... that way its logic there was no action up to nr 18. I put the leg back on the board and that helped.

                          I messured nr 18.. and there was 320 on leg A+D. On on the B+C there was 230.

                          Then multimeter slippede and while i was holding on the "c" messuring B... it sliped and catched A also... not so good - something flashed with a light - and sadly now the reading on A+D is around 6... and B+C is almost nothing.

                          I think I just burned nr 18.... jesus im destroing more than i fix hehe.

                          i also messured nr 16+17 and they were bot h around 320 i recall.... after i burned 18 these messures some very funny numbers... very low.
                          I hope maybe its because 18 is not sending power to them after the burn, and I have not also destroyed them also.


                          I messured nr 16 - leg A and nr 1 leg A - before i burned nr 18 its messured full power... after the burn it messures 0


                          Hmmm not sure how to get going with this now I made more trouble than before hehe.

                          Unsure what the part nr is for nr 18. If its the JP817... when searching og that on google and shopjimmy.com it finds nothing. Maybe i need to remove the cooling iron to get to the real part nr ?. Was just interested in seeing what the cost is for what I just destroyed
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                          • tom66
                            EVs Rule
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 32560
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                            You probably popped the fuse...
                            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                            • adaugaard
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                              • Jul 2014
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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              You probably popped the fuse...
                              Hehe one could hope so... is it possibel to check the fuse with it installed or do i need to cut of the leg again and meassure ?

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                              • multimeter
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 739
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                                #16
                                Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                                ooops !,well need to check the fuse again,and also the bridge rectifier to be safe

                                test the fuse solderd to the board no need to lift any legs at this stage,meter on resistance 200 ohm,power OFF reading


                                bridge rectifier (18) number pins left to right 1234

                                meter set to diode test power OFF

                                black probe to 1, red to 2 reading?

                                reverse probes 1 to 2 reading?

                                pins 2 and 3 should have no reading either way

                                pins 3 to 4, black to 3 red to 4 reading?

                                reverse probes, 3 to 4 reading?
                                fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                                ----------------------------------------------
                                please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                                • adaugaard
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                                  • Jul 2014
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                                  Originally posted by multimeter
                                  ooops !,well need to check the fuse again,and also the bridge rectifier to be safe

                                  test the fuse solderd to the board no need to lift any legs at this stage,meter on resistance 200 ohm,power OFF reading


                                  bridge rectifier (18) number pins left to right 1234

                                  meter set to diode test power OFF

                                  black probe to 1, red to 2 reading?

                                  reverse probes 1 to 2 reading?

                                  pins 2 and 3 should have no reading either way

                                  pins 3 to 4, black to 3 red to 4 reading?

                                  reverse probes, 3 to 4 reading?


                                  Diode test... hmm not sure where that is on my multimeter.
                                  Can you see my multimeter in the start of the post?

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                                  • tom66
                                    EVs Rule
                                    • Apr 2011
                                    • 32560
                                    • UK

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                                    One click right of 200 ohms, looks vaguely like this: ->|-
                                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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                                    • adaugaard
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                                      Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                                      Originally posted by multimeter
                                      ooops !,well need to check the fuse again,and also the bridge rectifier to be safe
                                      test the fuse solderd to the board no need to lift any legs at this stage,meter on resistance 200 ohm,power OFF reading: 0 - no response - asume this means it killed the fuse right ?


                                      bridge rectifier (18) number pins left to right 1234

                                      meter set to diode test power OFF

                                      black probe to 1, red to 2 reading? 0

                                      reverse probes 1 to 2 reading? 483

                                      pins 2 and 3 should have no reading either way: correct its 0

                                      pins 3 to 4, black to 3 red to 4 reading? 0

                                      reverse probes, 3 to 4 reading? 490

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                                      • multimeter
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                                        • Jan 2011
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung tv dosent turn on (no signal/standby light out) after lightning hit the h

                                        Originally posted by adaugaard
                                        test the fuse solderd to the board no need to lift any legs at this stage,meter on resistance 200 ohm,power OFF reading: 0 - no response - asume this means it killed the fuse right ?


                                        bridge rectifier (18) number pins left to right 1234

                                        meter set to diode test power OFF

                                        black probe to 1, red to 2 reading? 0

                                        reverse probes 1 to 2 reading? 483

                                        pins 2 and 3 should have no reading either way: correct its 0

                                        pins 3 to 4, black to 3 red to 4 reading? 0

                                        reverse probes, 3 to 4 reading? 490
                                        ok,your bridge is fine,on your meter in resistance setting probes apart what does the meter say?, "0" "0.00" or "1" ?
                                        0.00 would indicate fuse ok ,a 1 would indicate fuse open
                                        fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                                        ----------------------------------------------
                                        please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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