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  • anno
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 140
    • netherlands

    #1

    panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

    hi

    i have a panasonic plasma tv. model tx-p42S20E. it is hard to turn on, eventually it is turning on. sometimes first try , sometimes 20 tries.

    the power led is flickering green , then it goes to red again. 1 sec on , 3 seconds off. i have service manual and it says it's an unknown fault.
    i tried to disconnect the power cables to the x and Y board but same symptom.

    can anybody help me? thanks
  • anno
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 140
    • netherlands

    #2
    Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

    i measure voltage on big 450v cap and voltage is low 270v

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

      Does 450V cap voltage hit 390V when it does turn on? What does it do as it fails to power up? What do Vs and Vda measure when this occurs?
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • tw2005
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2011
        • 6458
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

        Sounding like SOS1 - A board replacement

        Can't tell you much more, being intermittent hard to know whether it's the processor or something simple like a bad cap on the board.

        I have had SOS1 due to bad flash chip but that was permanent 1 blink.

        Generally you'll need an A board. Not too many A board repairs seen for this but it's something that would be nice to nail in case it was something simple.

        Could try warming the board and see if it turns on easier but not that will prove a lot.

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        • anno
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 140
          • netherlands

          #5
          Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

          it doesn`t want to start atm. the vsus voltage is 205v and the vda is 60v.
          maybe here is a PFC problem because the low voltage on the big cap?

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          • tw2005
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2011
            • 6458
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

            Originally posted by anno
            it doesn`t want to start atm. the vsus voltage is 205v and the vda is 60v.
            maybe here is a PFC problem because the low voltage on the big cap?
            I don't see how with those voltages which are normal.

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            • anno
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 140
              • netherlands

              #7
              Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

              ok. is it possible to test the power supply standalone?
              with resistors on some 'on'' pins ?
              can i take a 230v lightbulb for the vsus load?

              i am not sure wich pins i have connect with each other
              P& connector is labeled :

              1. STBY5V
              2. GND
              3. S0
              4. S1
              5. F_STBY_ON
              6. ECO-ON
              7. Panel_main_on
              8. STBY5v_on
              9. SOS4_PS
              10. AC_low
              11. ALL_off
              12. main_Sw_1
              13 NC
              14. Main_sw_2

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              • anno
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 140
                • netherlands

                #8
                Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

                i think i didn`t measure the voltage right. because i couldn`t reach the big cap i measured on the + - legs of the rectifier. but PFC is further down the line, if you know what i mean. So its probably error of the A-board? I checked pin 5 en 7 of connector 7. When starting up they are 3,3 volt both and when turning of they go to 0 volts. (F_stby_on and panel_main_on) . Is this because A-board is turning of the main power supply?

                is it possible a voltage regulator on the mainboard is not working? i work on tv tommorow again

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                • tw2005
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 6458
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

                  Originally posted by anno
                  i think i didn`t measure the voltage right. because i couldn`t reach the big cap i measured on the + - legs of the rectifier. but PFC is further down the line, if you know what i mean. So its probably error of the A-board? I checked pin 5 en 7 of connector 7. When starting up they are 3,3 volt both and when turning of they go to 0 volts. (F_stby_on and panel_main_on) . Is this because A-board is turning of the main power supply?

                  is it possible a voltage regulator on the mainboard is not working? i work on tv tommorow again
                  NO. Not in my opinion. Do you have any manuals or guides? problems with sub voltages etc all have their own error blinks.

                  SOS1 - Panel information SOS, PD5 Start SOS

                  Search PD5 in the service manual PDF doc and you'll end up in the A board.

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                  • anno
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 140
                    • netherlands

                    #10
                    Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

                    yes i have service manual.i have 1 sec blink 3 sec no blink . Error 1
                    it says unknown SOS . panel information SOS PD4 start SOS

                    i don't know what panel information SOS and PD4 start SOS means. But i think i'm going to find and replace the A board. thanks for help

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                    • tw2005
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 6458
                      • Australia

                      #11
                      Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

                      Originally posted by anno
                      yes i have service manual.i have 1 sec blink 3 sec no blink . Error 1
                      it says unknown SOS . panel information SOS PD4 start SOS

                      i don't know what panel information SOS and PD4 start SOS means. But i think i'm going to find and replace the A board. thanks for help
                      Sorry , looked at the S30, but same,same. PD4, panel SOS. I cleared a X20 which had SOS1 confirmed corrupted flash ic, but yours being intermittent hard to say.

                      Not a board many try to fix with the 1 blink, new A board should sort it if you can get one. make sure you get the correct revision as i suspect with that the same PCB may be used for both HD and FHD models and different sizes as well.

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                      • anno
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 140
                        • netherlands

                        #12
                        Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

                        I changed the A-board and the tv is fine now. thanks

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                        • KORHAN DEGIRMEN
                          Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 10
                          • TURKEY

                          #13
                          Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

                          Originally posted by anno
                          I changed the A-board and the tv is fine now. thanks
                          Dear Anno;

                          How could you find A BOARD for TX-P42S20E? Could you please share with me?
                          I have some problem with A board too.

                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...581#post444581

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                          • anno
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 140
                            • netherlands

                            #14
                            Re: panasonic TX-P42S20E plasma tv difficult to turn on

                            sorry for the late reply, but i found in a webshop that sells used lcd/plasma parts
                            http://www.lcd-onderdelen.nl/a-37205...s/tnph0838-1a/

                            i am not sure thats the good one. someone told me to reflow bga chip on A board. i have not tried that

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