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  • Manddave
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 58
    • Uk

    #1

    samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

    Hi there
    I have a samsung ps42c450b1w plasma tv
    It seems to have the clicking relay on the psu and will not turn on.
    The psu was changed but no luck.
    When the main ysus is unhooked the tv powers up but no pic
    When just the xsus is unhooked I get the same clicking on the power board and nothing.
    There are no bad caps visible.
    Can you help please

    Thx
    Last edited by Manddave; 12-06-2013, 03:21 PM.
  • Manddave
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 58
    • Uk

    #2
    Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

    Anyone help plz

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    • Manddave
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 58
      • Uk

      #3
      Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

      Anyone help with identifying which board is at fault as I have limited experience
      thanks

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

        Most likely Y-main -- can you post some pictures of it? Have you checked VS voltage?
        When replacing these boards it's sometimes needed and often a good idea to replace both X- and Y-main at same time, due to how they chain together, damage on one can damage the other.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • Manddave
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 58
          • Uk

          #5
          Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

          Hi thanks for the reply
          I will have chance to look at this better tomorrow and get some pics
          I know it's not the power board for certain
          Can you tell me what voltage I need to check
          Thanks

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

            Vs is marked on the power board, it should be around 200V.
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            • Manddave
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 58
              • Uk

              #7
              Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

              The vs on the power board to the ysus looks ok
              The vs on the ysus to the x is virtually nothing.

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #8
                Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                Are you sure? They are directly connected to each other.
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                • Manddave
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 58
                  • Uk

                  #9
                  Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                  How do you mean?
                  The vs pin on the psu is showing voltage.
                  But the vs pin on the ysus that goes to the x board shows nothing

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                    From what I remember there is a direct circuit trace between the Vs in and out on the Y-main.
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                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    • Manddave
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 58
                      • Uk

                      #11
                      Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                      Ok my bad sorry I am getting voltage to the vs but losing it on and off with clicking psu

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                      • Manddave
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 58
                        • Uk

                        #12
                        Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                        Here are some pics
                        When ysus is unhooked the tv goes into its normal start up.
                        when its plugged in again i get 5 or 6 clicks from the psu and then nothing.
                        Attached Files

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                        • capkid
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1339
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                          This may be one of those Samsungs in which you can test for shorts in the components on the heat sinks and quickly find your problem boards: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...t=ns-50p650a11
                          Last edited by capkid; 12-08-2013, 10:29 AM.
                          LG Plasma Mal-Discharge Correction Service

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                          • Manddave
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 58
                            • Uk

                            #14
                            Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                            Changed out most of the boards on this tv and still the same
                            Anyone any ideas please
                            Would the buffers cause this problem?

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                            • Manddave
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 58
                              • Uk

                              #15
                              Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                              Any ideas what this could be please

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                              • Ltank
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 776
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                                So You removed the P.S. plug to Yand X board and it continued to cycle on/off? Remove the connector at P.S. from the main board. Does it still cycle on/off? If yes then its the P.S. No its the Logic board. according to the Tranining Module page 46

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                                • freakaftr8
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2012
                                  • 3743
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                                  Sounds like a logic board issue, arethee any leds lit up on the logic board when its power cycling? check tthe white rectangular ceramic fuse on the logic board to see if its open.
                                  Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                                  • Manddave
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Oct 2013
                                    • 58
                                    • Uk

                                    #18
                                    Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                                    Led on logic board lights up when cycling. When main ysus is unhooked it starts up and displays nothing
                                    Also when logic board is unhooked from ps it goes through start up.
                                    If I unhook main board then it does nothing.
                                    Could I have been sold a bad psu?
                                    Can anyone tell me how to test psu
                                    Thx

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                                    • Manddave
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Oct 2013
                                      • 58
                                      • Uk

                                      #19
                                      Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                                      completely disconnected the logic board from everything and the tv starts up with no picture
                                      when the logic board is connected to ps again it starts the cycling.
                                      Everytime it clicks the led on the logic board lights up. it does this a few times and shuts off.

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                                      • Manddave
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Oct 2013
                                        • 58
                                        • Uk

                                        #20
                                        Re: samsung ps42c450b1w clicking

                                        Can anyone say if this is definitely the logic board. Due to it being replaced with a 2nd hand one

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