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  • trigger
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 16
    • uk

    #1

    Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

    Mosfets on board BN44-00262A have gone dead short. Replaced the two FDPF7N5OU (QI820 QI821) with other mosfets as these were not available. I used FDPF8N50NZF with a better spec and these blew after about 1 sec and took the main 6.3A fuse out as well as the 3,15A fuse which had blown originally. Have i lost drives or something? Any help would be appreciated.
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

    You should also replace the components near them which drive the MOSFETs - diodes, resistors, etc. They will connect to the gate pins.
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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

      Also get BN44 number -- I may have a schematic you can use.
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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

        From TOM website.
        the fusible resistor that feed the PFC B+ to those two MOSFETs is OK?
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        • trigger
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          • Aug 2013
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          #5
          Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

          Is that PFC out? Cant find PFC B+ on schematic.Resistors round the two Mosfets test Ok.
          Last edited by trigger; 08-09-2013, 02:58 PM. Reason: missed something

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
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            #6
            Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

            Yes that is the same as PFC B+.
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            • trigger
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              • Aug 2013
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              #7
              Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

              Thanks for that. I'm trying to source the 4 diodes KDS184, would BAV70 be OK? They are 85V 200mA High Speed switching diodes.
              Will post when Ive replaced the diodes and trannies.

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              • tom66
                EVs Rule
                • Apr 2011
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                #8
                Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

                I can't see why that wouldn't work. Should be an acceptable substitution, given the MOSFET gate is typically driven up to around 10 to 15V.
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                • tw2005
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 6458
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

                  looks bang on target using NXP cross reference.

                  http://www.nxp.com/xref/nxp?typenumber=kds184

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                  • trigger
                    Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 16
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

                    Thanks again. Just removed all the diodes and transistors found one diode and one transistor open cct. Had weird readings around that bit of the cct.Hopefully new bits arrive tomorrow and that will fix it ????

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                    • trigger
                      Member
                      • Aug 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

                      Replaced the transistors,diodes and MOSFETs .Powered up and the 6.3A fuse blew and the NTC NT811S. Checked for shorts and can't find any. Components I've replaced are OK and the 3.15A fuse. No shorts on the two MOSFETs Q1820,1821. Shall I change the bridge rectifier and the 150uF cap CP815. Strange no shorts? Unless something blew when I first replaced Q1820,Q1821 ?????

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

                        Do you have a multimeter with frequency and VDC capability?
                        Try powering up with MOSFETs removed, see if the fuse blows.
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                        • budm
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                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

                          Or remove that fuse (FM802S 3.15A) for the b+ that feeds the two MOSFETs. I have a feeling he may have bad PFC MOSFET (QP801S), or the bridge, or the PFC IC.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • trigger
                            Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 16
                            • uk

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

                            Thanks
                            I do have a multimeter and a scope. The Mosfet QP801S does not appear to be short cct or the bridge rectifier. I will replace the bridge and the NTC, remove fuse FM802S and power up and see what happens.

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                            • trigger
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                              • Aug 2013
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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LE37B550A5wW Inverter MOSFETs dead short

                              Sorry about delay in replying for all your helpful advice. Kept on going round in circles with this one. Replaced bridge rectifier and the NTC. Didn't blow the 6.3 amp fuse this time. Still blew the 3.15 amp fuse. Getting expensive, bought another board £40.00. Now working fine.
                              Thanks everyone for your help. Will stay with this forum. Brilliant.

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