Toshiba 50hp66 Plasma - Removed 2 shorted Y-Buffer Fet’s and Display starts working??

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  • sattech200
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 59
    • USA

    #1

    Toshiba 50hp66 Plasma - Removed 2 shorted Y-Buffer Fet’s and Display starts working??

    Morning All!

    I found two failed Fet's on the Y-Buffer boards, removed them and the display starts working normally.....HUH? How does that work? Details below.

    Was just given my first plasma project TV. Not sure that's a good things with everything I've read so far about this particular model….

    The unit would power on with a dark snowy background and audio. If I pressed the input button vertical blocks would present from top to bottom varying from 1/4" to 2" in width. Pressing the input button again would move and change this pattern to a different section of the screen. There was no visible OSD menu. I'm calling this corruption of the OSD since the faint background didn't change. Wish I would have taken pics, sorry about that.

    Anyways….

    After a lot of researching and studying I followed the advice posted on another thread to unplug the lower buffer board (YDRV BOT) and power on.

    Sure enough, the upper half of the screen started working. I pulled both filter boards and identified two shorted mosfets on the lower board.

    I then started to search for known causes of the fet's to short and started thinking. Since I am planning to replace all of the fets on both boreds I had an idea. Remove the two failed one's(the two that are back to back) remove two good ones from the upper board and install on the lower board for troubleshooting.

    I re-installed both boards and hooked everything up as it normally should be. All mosfets on lower board now tested good and there are two missing mosfets on upper board.

    I powered it on, and could have S&$# a bright white snowy pictured appeared with audio just like it should on the entire screen. I then tried changing inputs and the OSD displayed as normal. I attached my laptop to pc input and it displays on the entire screen. I wanted to remove power to the unit as quickly as possibly until I understand what's going on so I didn't check closely for picture quality.

    So, I have a few questions on this project.

    1) Why/how is it possible to have a picture on the entire screen with 2 missing mosfets?

    2) I have the Toshiba service manual for this set; does anyone know where I can find a Toshiba Training Manual specifically for this chassis? OR does anyone know of an equivalent LG training/service manual that I can trust. Mostly looking for TP and Voltages at this time. After reviewing some of the other training manuals I feel I would learn a LOT more about Plasmas then I currently do.

    3) I've read the horror stories about the IPM'S going out. I have a noticeable oscillating sound coming from one or both of mine. Is that normal or a sign that they are failing and possibly the cause of the blown fets?

    4) I read on another post the recommendation of using FDB52N20 as a heavy duty replacement to the FQB46N15 that are currently installed. Any thoughts? At this point I am planning on ordering the heavy duty ones.

    5) Are there any other parts I should consider replacing, in general and specifically related to the shorted fets, since I have to put an order in?

    6) Was going to give this unit to my dad to replace his 30yo, non-HD, tube set. Am I asking for a lot of headaches and be better off selling it instead for something newer?

    That's all my frozen brain can think of at the moment, have spent way to much time on this unit…..because I love every minute of the adventure of learning something new! Just love this stuff.



    You guy's ROCK! Thank you for any and all thoughts/advice/input.
    Randy
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Toshiba 50hp66 Plasma - Removed 2 shorted Y-Buffer Fet's and Display starts worki

    Well those FETs were probably in parallel. So three FETs used to do the job, now one is. Do you think that one FET is going to last long doing the job of 3?

    Replace at least the two missing ones, ideally, all of them.

    The sustain boards normally buzz, it is quite OK.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • sattech200
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 59
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Toshiba 50hp66 Plasma - Removed 2 shorted Y-Buffer Fet's and Display starts worki

      Thank you for the info! That makes sense.

      Sorry for the long winded, giving as much detail as possible, post but....I did say I was planing to replace ALL the fets and that I wanted to remove power as quickly as possible until I understood what was going on to avoid any further damage.

      Cheers!

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Toshiba 50hp66 Plasma - Removed 2 shorted Y-Buffer Fet's and Display starts worki

        OK, that's fine then. I skim posts sometimes; I haven't got much time free.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • Jesse28B
          New Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 1
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Toshiba 50hp66 Plasma - Removed 2 shorted Y-Buffer Fet's and Display starts worki

          I really hate to bring up such an old thread, but I've searched this entire site and I can't find the answer...

          Anyway, I have the exact same TV with the exact same Fet failure, and I have been unable to find the FQB46N15 fets anywhere in the US for a reasonable price. I was going to order the FDB52N20 fets that you mentioned from Digikey, but after reading the specs they don't seem to match up perfecty (I have very limited knowledge of fets). Does anybody have any further knowledge of whether or not these two fets are interchangeable? Did these replacement fets work for you or anybody else on this site?


          Thank you all for your help!

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          • selldoor
            Slow Learner
            • Dec 2010
            • 7870

            #6
            Re: Toshiba 50hp66 Plasma - Removed 2 shorted Y-Buffer Fet's and Display starts worki

            You could look at these PSMN035-150B,P
            They look similar to me but you would need to check the dimensions.
            An alternative if they would fit and can be secured would be to get the T0-220
            version of the original
            http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...6N15-ND/965350
            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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            • sattech200
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 59
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Toshiba 50hp66 Plasma - Removed 2 shorted Y-Buffer Fet's and Display starts worki

              I did order in the FDB52N20 replacements and performed the operation. The set worked great for a day or two and then presented some other problems before dying again and getting pushed to the back of the project list. I honestly just haven't had time to get back to it but hope to do so soon.

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