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    Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

    Just got this 22" TV in today, the blue power light sometime it will be on but the touch control to turn on the TV does not work, sometime the Blue power light does not come on at all.
    Took it apart to inspect for bad caps, burnt parts, loose connections, they all look OK.
    I then check the DC output, the 5.1V was only 4.30V, the 15V was only about 13.25V. Load or no load made no difference, I load it down with light and heavy loads and it maintains the voltages real well, so it is regulating but at the wrong voltage, since both 5v and the 15v are off by the same percentage, then it must be something common to both supply. I down load the spec of the SMPS IC, 3BR1065. At first I thought it may be the SMPS IC is bad but it is able to maintain the regulation real well, so I start looking at the feedback signal from the secondary side which drive the Opto, the feedback circuits is typical TL431 precision adjustable reference diode with opto for isolation between primary and secondary side, the regulation is done by how hard the LED inside is turn on (if the output voltage tries to go up, it will turn on the LED more, so more current transfer on the Opto transistor receiving side), the less the primary will drive the transformer.
    So it can either be the Opto or the TL431, Opto does not fail very often since they are just LED and photo transistor inside. I test my theory by solder in a 10k pot in parallel with the LED of the Opto so I can divert the drive current away from the LED, the more I lower the resistance (less current go to the LED) the higher the output voltage goes up, I set the pot so I can get 5v and 15v back, then the TV starts working again. so I decide to change the TL431 instead, and that was it, bad precision reference Diode.
    It is sad that TV broke down 2 months after warranty expired due to 50 cents part.
    Attached Files
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

    #2
    Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

    This is similar to the 24" i recently fixed, the whole section with the boards isnt screwed down, just held in by hope and change. All the boards looked really cheaply made too. Sony is trying to follow samsungs amazing ability to find the cheapest worst oems in china and save a penny anywhere. So soon everyones will be this bad.
    Fixed so far 12 lcd's , 1 plasmas, 5 monitors, 0 dlp's (plan to keep the dlps at 0). and 3 atx power supplies, and 2 motherboards.

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      #3
      Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

      Originally posted by budm View Post
      It is sad that TV broke down 2 months after warranty expired due to 50 cents part.
      When buying electronics or big ticket items, some credit cards extend the original warranty for up to 1 extra year. Some stores like Costco add an extra year warranty to the TV manufacturer's warranty for their members.

      Of course, none of this helped my friend with the Toshiba HDTV with the failing tab bonds 2.75 years later.
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        #4
        Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

        I wonder if this is what causes the AC detect failure on some LG plasma TV power supplies?

        The symptom is the TV will power on (with click from the inrush relays), PSU will start switching (voltages come up), screen will sometimes flicker, then the relays click back.

        The fix is to simply disable the AC detect by bridging both optocouplers.

        The AC detect signal is generated by a pair of... UTC TL431s. These compare the incoming AC to the 2.5V reference. If the reference went high, it would cause AC detection problems. It would be unusual for the reference to go high, so maybe the entire device just fails open causing a complete loss of AC detection.
        Last edited by tom66; 04-08-2012, 03:53 AM.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          #5
          Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

          One thing has to be careful is that most power supply uses negative feedback to control the output voltages, if it does not get the feedback, the output can get very high, I did not try to find out how high it can go when I bypassed some of the LED current away from the Opto.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            #6
            Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

            Nice work! you forgot to write Budm on all of the transistors like you normally do
            Fixed so far : 1 Home cinema system, 16 LCD Monitors, 4 LCD TV's

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              #7
              Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

              Originally posted by budm View Post
              One thing has to be careful is that most power supply uses negative feedback to control the output voltages, if it does not get the feedback, the output can get very high, I did not try to find out how high it can go when I bypassed some of the LED current away from the Opto.
              I've found most PSUs are capable of 2-3x rated voltage with no load. Would be a good idea to test without motherboard connected, but you could still damage inverter and caps...
              Last edited by tom66; 04-08-2012, 04:59 PM.
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                #8
                Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

                Budm, I was just handed one of the sets and found this thread. Opened it up and measure the 5.1V and 15V points. Found that the 5.1V is about 5.16V and the 15V is 14.62V. I tied a 10K pot across pins 1 and 2 of the optoisolator and looked to see if the 14.62V pin changed as I twiddle the pot. No changes. Suggestions on what to look at next? The set responds to power on but then blinks blue LED 5 or 6 times and becomes steady. No picture and not able to turn it off by power button.
                Last edited by ahickman; 08-14-2012, 11:09 AM.

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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

                  Sorry to revive this post, but I'm having the exact same issue with exactly the same model of Syncmaster. Where would I find a replacement for this component? I've found THIS. Would this part suffice?

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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

                    I've also found THIS.

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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

                      Any of them will be good.
                      Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                      Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                      A working TV? How boring!

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                        #12
                        Re: Samsung TV B2230HD made in Jan 2011, failed in March 2012

                        Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3 View Post
                        Any of them will be good.
                        Thanks much, I'll let everyone know if it fixes the issue. Maybe this is a trend for this monitor.

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