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  • luiznunes
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 33

    #21
    Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

    anyone knows what is the IC13 KA5H080R on the circuit ?

    http://images3.hiboox.com/images/390...fa988718f8.bmp

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    • Th3_uN1Qu3
      Believe in
      • Jul 2010
      • 6031
      • Romania

      #22
      Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

      Someone was hungry and the 3 was the only thing he could find to eat. Here you go. It's a power supply controller with built in power mosfet.
      Originally posted by PeteS in CA
      Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
      A working TV? How boring!

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      • luiznunes
        Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 33

        #23
        Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

        since I don't have the exact schematics of this board ( the PS101 ), how can I discover what is wrong with it?

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        • PlainBill
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2009
          • 7034
          • USA

          #24
          Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

          Originally posted by luiznunes
          since I don't have the exact schematics of this board ( the PS101 ), how can I discover what is wrong with it?
          You start by taking pictures of the power supply - one of the top and one of the bottom - and posting them HERE using 'Manage Attachments'. I've had enough problems with '.jpgs' posted offsite that wouldn't open or contained something extra. Don't post them inline.

          PlainBill
          For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

          Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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          • luiznunes
            Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 33

            #25
            Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

            you mean the power supply board, or the PS101 of the Ysus board pictures?

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            • PlainBill
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2009
              • 7034
              • USA

              #26
              Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

              Originally posted by luiznunes
              you mean the power supply board, or the PS101 of the Ysus board pictures?
              Sorry, it was early and I wasn't paying attention. Yes, pictures of the top and bottom side of the PS101 would be helpful. It may be necessary to use wires to extend PS101 above the board so you can make measurements.

              Actually, let me make a suggestion. With PS101 still in place take pictures of the top and bottom showing as much as possible. I have a similar board here; if they match it will make things much easier. If they don't, well, it's little time lost.

              Or you could shotgun it by replacing the electrolytic caps.

              PlainBill
              For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

              Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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              • luiznunes
                Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 33

                #27
                Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                hey, you don't have to appologize!

                I am the one who's need help!

                here it is the pictures. if you can see what you want, please tell me and I take more.
                Attached Files

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                • PlainBill
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7034
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                  Originally posted by luiznunes
                  hey, you don't have to appologize!

                  I am the one who's need help!

                  here it is the pictures. if you can see what you want, please tell me and I take more.
                  It's built on the same board, but there are a few dash number (version) differences, almost certainly due to a different output voltage. Borrowing on other reports, I'd replace C25 - it's the smallest electrolytic cap - 100 uF, 35 volts on mine. If that is leaky it could affect the output voltage.

                  PlainBill
                  For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                  Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                  • luiznunes
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 33

                    #29
                    Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                    to replace it, I need to un-solder the PS101 from the Ysus, right? because I don't have much access to put an iron there..

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                    • luiznunes
                      Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 33

                      #30
                      Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                      don't you think that, because of the very slow drop of voltage until it reaches the correct 200V is due to a faulty resistor?

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                      • PlainBill
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 7034
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                        Originally posted by luiznunes
                        don't you think that, because of the very slow drop of voltage until it reaches the correct 200V is due to a faulty resistor?
                        Yes, you will have to remove PS101 from the main board.

                        While it is possible, it's unlikely. Others have reported problems with these units and found it was due to a bad cap.

                        And it turns out my memory was faulty. Here's the post. Perhaps there are enough clues to help you.

                        PlainBill
                        For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                        Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                        • luiznunes
                          Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 33

                          #32
                          Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                          Originally posted by PlainBill
                          It's built on the same board, but there are a few dash number (version) differences, almost certainly due to a different output voltage. Borrowing on other reports, I'd replace C25 - it's the smallest electrolytic cap - 100 uF, 35 volts on mine. If that is leaky it could affect the output voltage.

                          PlainBill
                          already replaced. problem remains the same...

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                          • PlainBill
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 7034
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                            Originally posted by luiznunes
                            already replaced. problem remains the same...
                            Off to do some yard work and cogitate on the problem. Bump the thread if I don't update by Monday evening.

                            PlainBill
                            For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                            Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                            • luiznunes
                              Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 33

                              #34
                              Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                              ok, thanks.

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                              • luiznunes
                                Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 33

                                #35
                                Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                                I measure the output of the transformer and is a stable 210V

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                                • PlainBill
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2009
                                  • 7034
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                                  Originally posted by luiznunes
                                  I measure the output of the transformer and is a stable 210V
                                  OK, now you have me thoroughly confused. Is the output of PS101 a stable 200 (or 210) volts?

                                  PlainBill
                                  For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                                  Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                                  • luiznunes
                                    Member
                                    • Sep 2011
                                    • 33

                                    #37
                                    Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                                    Originally posted by PlainBill
                                    OK, now you have me thoroughly confused. Is the output of PS101 a stable 200 (or 210) volts?

                                    PlainBill
                                    more or less stable. Why?

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                                    • luiznunes
                                      Member
                                      • Sep 2011
                                      • 33

                                      #38
                                      Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                                      Originally posted by PlainBill
                                      OK, now you have me thoroughly confused. Is the output of PS101 a stable 200 (or 210) volts?

                                      PlainBill
                                      It shouldn't be stable or shouldn't be around 200?
                                      I can check again.

                                      Isn't the PS101 the same as the PS102? Same component and values except the transformer?

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                                      • PlainBill
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2009
                                        • 7034
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                                        Originally posted by luiznunes
                                        It shouldn't be stable or shouldn't be around 200?
                                        I can check again.

                                        Isn't the PS101 the same as the PS102? Same component and values except the transformer?
                                        Let's see if we are on the same page here. In an early post you indicated Vy was too high (250V) and the picture was bad when the TV was turned on. After a few minutes Vy would drop to the proper value and the picture became good. Or am I totally confused?

                                        After changing C25 is Vy stable and is the picture good when the TV first comes up??

                                        PlainBill
                                        For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

                                        Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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                                        • luiznunes
                                          Member
                                          • Sep 2011
                                          • 33

                                          #40
                                          Re: LG 42PC1RR-ZL y sus problem

                                          Originally posted by PlainBill
                                          Let's see if we are on the same page here. In an early post you indicated Vy was too high (250V) and the picture was bad when the TV was turned on. After a few minutes Vy would drop to the proper value and the picture became good. Or am I totally confused?

                                          After changing C25 is Vy stable and is the picture good when the TV first comes up??

                                          PlainBill
                                          Ok, my bad. I must measured the PS102 that time. sorry.
                                          Here I enclose a PDF file showing the evolution of Vy and the output of the transfomer. If you want I can send the excel file with the data.
                                          I was asking about the PS101 and PS102 having the same schematics, so I may compare some values between them.
                                          Attached Files
                                          Last edited by luiznunes; 10-09-2011, 09:37 AM.

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