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    Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

    Hello @ll !!!

    I am trying to repair Trust 420W PSU, model PW-5210 (http://www.trust.com/en/all-products...ual-fan-pw5210).

    When I checked the psu for the first time I founded in primary side:

    1. Glass fuse was blown.
    2. 2 x Power FET's MJE13009 was shorted.
    3. 2 x 0.5 Ohm, registors (R4, R5) was burned.
    4. 1 x Orange or Red + ? + ? + Gold, registor (R7).
    5. 1 x 472 1KV capacitor missing one leg.
    6. 2 x 10uf 50V was burned.

    1, 2, 5 and 6 replaced with new one.
    Because I couldn't found 0.5 Ohm (Green-Black-Silver-Gold) registor, I have used 2 x 1.2 Ohm.

    R7 registor measured as 10K with my MM but I am not sure if it's the correct value. I used 2.6K registor instead.

    When I switched on the psu with the light bulp in serial, I got in my psu tester +5vsb output only and no shorts.

    Ic's are AZ7500BP-E1 and AZ339P-E1.

    Can you please give me information to make it work? What else to check?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

    May be your Controller Section has gone . Specially the IC AZ7500BP . Check the voltage on IC PIN 4, 8 & 11 in both state (AZ7500BP). Check the two switching transistors (C945/C1815)- are they ok or not . And check T2 transformer's PIN voltage in both state . I think most probably your IC AZ7500BP has been damaged . This is why your MJE13009 has blown .
    Last edited by Escort Eagle; 04-28-2014, 09:55 PM.

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      #3
      Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

      Originally posted by Escort Eagle View Post
      May be your Controller Section has gone . Specially the IC AZ7500BP . Check the voltage on IC PIN 4, 8 & 11 in both state (AZ7500BP). And check T2 transformer's PIN voltage in both state . I think most probably your IC AZ7500BP has been damaged . This is why your MJE13009 has blown .
      I've changed both ic's with new one using TL494CN and LM339N but seems there was ok because voltages measurments was same as old IC's.

      IC: TL494CN (PS_ON state ----- PS_OFF)
      ===============================
      1: 0.5 m v
      2: 4.427 v
      3: 61.8 mv
      4: 34.6 mv --- 3.364v
      5: 1.496 v
      6: 3.733 v
      7: 0.5 mv
      8: 1.602 v --- 2.365 v

      9: 0.7 mv
      10: 0.6 mv
      11: 1.6 v --- 2.363 v
      12: 10.35 v --- 10.37 v
      13: 5.018 v
      14: 5.018 v
      15: 5.016 v
      16: 472 mv


      IC: LM339N (PS_ON state)
      ===================
      1: 4.252 v
      2: 35.1 mv
      3: 5.018 v
      4: 1.248 v
      5: 0.792 v
      6: 0.6 mv
      7: 2.457 v

      8: 1.334 v
      9: 62.7 mv
      10: 1.1 mv
      11: 1.2 v
      12: 0 v
      13: 0 v
      14: 4.2 mv

      OPTO: (PS_ON state -----PS_OFF)
      ======================
      pin 1: 5.079 v --- 5.075 v
      pin 2: 4.010 v --- 4.008 v

      T2 transformer (PS_ON state -----PS_OFF)
      ============================
      pin 1: 1.560 v --- 1.617 v
      pin 2: 1.560 v --- 1.617 v
      pin 3: 1.560 v --- 1.617 v

      Green color at PS_ON state does not have voltage, but on switching off state has 5.015 v.

      When I shorted pin 4(DTC) with pin 7 (GRD) on TL431CN ic, psu didn't worked, only +5vsb output was ok.

      Check the two switching transistors (C945/C1815)- are they ok or not .
      Checked most of the transistor's and those in attached image. Can I make some voltage measurement to verify that are working as expected?
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      Last edited by stefos; 04-29-2014, 09:06 AM.

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        #4
        Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

        Found 2 x 1N4148 bad and replaced, but still no go. Only +5vsb
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        Last edited by stefos; 04-29-2014, 01:38 PM.

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          #5
          Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

          Originally posted by stefos View Post
          When I shorted pin 4(DTC) with pin 7 (GRD) on TL431CN ic, psu didn't worked, only +5vsb output was ok.
          ops type mistake..

          When I shorted pin 4(DTC) with pin 7 (GRD) on TL494CN ic, psu didn't worked, only +5vsb output was ok.

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            #6
            Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

            1N4148 are damaged but Surprisingly C2235 are survived !!

            When you are shorting 4+7 Pins, then what is the voltage in T2 Transformer Pin ??

            Replace those Components with new one . Shown in the image . Let's see what happens .
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              #7
              Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

              Originally posted by Escort Eagle View Post
              When you are shorting 4+7 Pins, then what is the voltage in T2 Transformer Pin ??
              I shorted pins 4+7 and power on psu with light bulp in series using psu tester.
              Got +5vsb only.

              1. Fan no rotation as always.
              2. Voltage on T2 1-2-3 pins was 1.825v and produced 0.001v voltage drop every 10 sec. About 10-15 min later voltages was 1.750v.

              Replace those Components with new one . Shown in the image . Let's see what happens .
              Desoldered 100 Ω, 620 Ω registors and 1N4148 diode tested and founded OK.
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                #8
                Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

                I told you to replace those components .

                At the time of 4+7 what is the voltage at 8 and 11 PIN ??

                Check the T2 Transformer - Is it ok or not ? 1,2 & 5 will give you continuity and 3 & 4 will give you continuity . Shown in Image "IM-01"

                As far as I can Remember - I repaired a Power supply which Transformer was same like as yours . I can remember that power supply was not running . Every Parts was OK but PSU was not turning on !! Then I changed the T2 transformer but Power supply did not run !! At last I changed the Main T1 Transformer and PSU Started running . But Meter is showing Transformer is OK !! My Meter is giving continuity in both Primary side and Secondary Side . No side is open . That transformer still is in my vault . I have uploaded the Picture of that Transformer "IM-02" .
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                  #9
                  Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

                  Originally posted by Escort Eagle View Post
                  I told you to replace those components .

                  At the time of 4+7 what is the voltage at 8 and 11 PIN ??

                  Check the T2 Transformer - Is it ok or not ? 1,2 & 5 will give you continuity and 3 & 4 will give you continuity . Shown in Image "IM-01"

                  As far as I can Remember - I repaired a Power supply which Transformer was same like as yours . I can remember that power supply was not running . Every Parts was OK but PSU was not turning on !! Then I changed the T2 transformer but Power supply did not run !! At last I changed the Main T1 Transformer and PSU Started running . But Meter is showing Transformer is OK !! My Meter is giving continuity in both Primary side and Secondary Side . No side is open . That transformer still is in my vault . I have uploaded the Picture of that Transformer "IM-02" .
                  I had replaced the 2 resistors (100 Ohm and 620 Ohm) and 1N4148 diode, but the psu didn't work, so this is the reason I mentioned that those parts were tested and founded to be okay.

                  At the time of 4+7 what is the voltage at 8 and 11 PIN ??
                  Voltage measurements on TL494 IC was as following:

                  Pin 1: 1.3 mv
                  Pin 2: 4.930 v
                  Pin 3: 62 mv
                  Pin 4: 0.6 mv
                  Pin 5: 1.497 v
                  Pin 6: 3.706 v
                  Pin 7: GRD (0 v)
                  Pin 8: 1.591 v
                  Pin 9: 0.6 mv
                  Pin 10: 0.6 mv
                  Pin 11: 1.581 v
                  Pin 12: 10.37 v
                  Pin 13: 5.012 v
                  Pin 14: 5.012 v
                  Pin 15: 4.018 v
                  Pin 16: 517.8 mv

                  T2 Voltage on pins 1-2-3 was 1.751 v and continuity test was exactly as you refered.

                  Unfortunatlly I don't have this type of T1 transformer to try it out.My meter gives continuity in both 1-2-3 primary pins and 1-2-3-4-5-6 pins on secondary side.

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                    Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

                    Your TL494 is switching properly . The Problem is laid after the IC to T2 Transformer . First Replace the Switching Transistors C2235 With C945/C1815 . Let's see PSU runs or not .

                    Still the PSU is not running then change the T2 Transformer . I think it will solve your problem . To change the T2 Transformer you must be careful that Vdd will be in side position and other two pins will connected with switching transistors . Shown in Image "IM-03" . And Primary side's Pin Continuity will also match with the Original one .

                    By the way - In primary side All Parts are OK ?? I mean Four 1N4148 Diodes and two capacitors which you replaced - are they in right direction ??
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                    Last edited by Escort Eagle; 05-02-2014, 10:38 AM.

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                      #11
                      Re: Trust 420W PSU DUAL FAN PW-5210 only +5VSB output

                      Originally posted by Escort Eagle View Post
                      Your TL494 is switching properly . The Problem is laid after the IC to T2 Transformer . First Replace the Switching Transistors C2235 With C945/C1815 . Let's see PSU runs or not .
                      Replaced with 2 x C945 didn't fix the problem.

                      Still the PSU is not running then change the T2 Transformer . I think it will solve your problem . To change the T2 Transformer you must be careful that Vdd will be in side position and other two pins will connected with switching transistors . Shown in Image "IM-03" . And Primary side's Pin Continuity will also match with the Original one .
                      Used another T2 transformer with same continuity and got same voltage output (see image [470]). Problem remain.

                      By the way - In primary side All Parts are OK ?? I mean Four 1N4148 Diodes and two capacitors which you replaced - are they in right direction ??
                      Test out of circuit 4 x 1N4148 diodes and was ok and the new caps direction is ok too (negative polarity is facing pFET's).

                      Probably the problem exists on T1 transformer as you mentioned before.
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