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    Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

    Hello all,

    I had an old 230W KME power supply go flaky in a 486 awhile back, and since then retired it to the junkpile of PC parts outside. Well recently, I was digging around in that pile when I came across it. Suddenly I came up with the crazy idea of recapping it.

    So I dug it out of the pile, brought it inside, and took a look inside. In there I found that it had two 180uf 200v Panasonic primary (input) caps, which I thought were weak for a supply that's supposed to do 230W. The secondary caps were all D.S. type LL, and none had a capacitance higher than 1000uf. Also, the fan was missing (from a previous experiment.) So I went to work.
    First thing I did, was replace those two 180uf primaries with some beefy 470uf Chemi-Cons. The general majority of the secondary side went to my beloved Nichicon PLs, as well as a Chemi-Con LXF.

    Here are the original caps and parts, and what I replaced them with:

    2x 180uf 200v Panasonic --> 2x Nippon Chemi-Con 470uf 200v
    3x 1000uf 16v D.S. LL --> 3x Nichicon PL 2200uf 16v (I love the Nichi PL/PM )
    1x 1000uf 10v D.S. LL --> 1x Nippon Chemi-Con LXF 2200uf 10v
    1x 470uf 10v D.S. LL --> 1x Samyoung LXV 1500uf 10v (temporary)
    1x 10uf 50v D.S. LL --> 1x JPce-tur 10uf 50v (temporary)
    Missing 80mm fan --> 1x cheap 80mm Mitachi Spacefan (hey, it has to go someplace )

    The new caps were much bigger and heavier than the cheap D.S. things I removed, thus giving this lightweight supply a little weight.

    The result: It works! I connected an old DTK 386SX motherboard to it, as well as three old full-height 3.5" IDE hard drives (the biggest of which was a 340MB Maxtor LXT-340A which ate 10W idle). I ran a DMM on the voltages, and found that +12 had 12.13v and +5 had 5.21v. Tomorrow I'll finish up the recap (those Samyoung and JPce-tur will definitely be replaced).
    Last edited by UraBahn; 09-11-2006, 02:27 AM.
    The ever-amazing (and ever-affordable) KY, Chemi-con's best kept secret.

    I'll probably be the only person going to SteamOS once it gets out of beta (ha ha.)

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    Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

    Here's some more information on the unit: It uses the Daewoo DBL494, which I assume to be similar to the Texas Instruments TL494. The PCB is nicely constructed and soldering is quite good (and it melted fast enough for my cheapo 25W Radio Shack iron to work with!) Heatsinks are a little small though, really makes me wonder if this unit is really just an over-rated 140W.

    Also I looked in the secondary section and found a single Rubycon 47uf 50v cap. Why they'd only use one Rubycon and use D.S. for the rest of the secondary section, I'll never know.

    Here's a craptastic pic of the unit (taken with my scanner)...
    Attached Files
    The ever-amazing (and ever-affordable) KY, Chemi-con's best kept secret.

    I'll probably be the only person going to SteamOS once it gets out of beta (ha ha.)

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      #3
      Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

      DBL494 is TL494 pin-to-pin compatible equivalent

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        #4
        Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

        Here's an update on the PSU.

        I replaced *all* D.S. electrolytic capacitors on the board. I had to use a (low-value) JPce-tur next to the flyback because I ran out of Nichis, Rubys or Chemis that would fit.

        Parts Replacement:
        Samyoung LXV 1500uf 10v --> Nichicon PF 1000uf 16v. (original was 470uf!)
        JPce-tur 10uf 50v --> Rubycon MH 10uf 50v
        Various low-value D.S. caps --> Rubycon, Nichicon and Chemi-Con equivalents
        One 1uf 50v D.S. --> JPce-tur 1uf 50v
        Cheap 80mm Mitachi fan --> Nidec Beta V 80mm 0.29amp /w shorted thermistor

        Also, I had to solder a capacitor ghetto-style because the solder pad broke off the board when I pulled the old cap out.

        Anyway, I tested the unit, seems to be OK so far. +12v remains at 12.11v, and +5v is steady at 5.20v. Will do some more testing later.
        The ever-amazing (and ever-affordable) KY, Chemi-con's best kept secret.

        I'll probably be the only person going to SteamOS once it gets out of beta (ha ha.)

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          #5
          Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

          Cool! I always like to see old stuff rebuild/taken apart! Also, Pics really help threads!

          Thank you!

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            #6
            Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

            I have seen D.S caps bulging on shuttle p3 motherboards, it's very small size for its 1000uf 6.3v rated.

            I have an acer 100W psu for 386sx system. On the secondary side it has 3300uf and 4700uf capxon (bulging) and bulging 'nitsuko' (iirc) caps on the primary.

            Yours looks like my microtek AT psu (200W). All secondary caps are not more than 1000uF.
            days are so short when you actually do something..

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              #7
              Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

              Originally posted by yanz
              I have seen D.S caps bulging on shuttle p3 motherboards, it's very small size for its 1000uf 6.3v rated.

              I have an acer 100W psu for 386sx system. On the secondary side it has 3300uf and 4700uf capxon (bulging) and bulging 'nitsuko' (iirc) caps on the primary.

              Yours looks like my microtek AT psu (200W). All secondary caps are not more than 1000uF.
              Hmmm. I found Nitsuko caps (which still looked good) inside my old Sega Nomad as I was trying to fix the power jack on it. Nitsuko sounds like a Japanese brand. As for the Capxon, well, it's probably about time for them to go (after 10+ years, just about any cap is game really). CapXon are IMO head and shoulders above the majority of badcaps brands, but they're still far from being top-tier.

              Speaking of bad caps, I think I might have to replace an 'Elgen' brand capacitor on my prehistoric Tandy 1000 TL/2's motherboard. How's about that for old-school??
              Last edited by UraBahn; 09-19-2006, 03:22 PM. Reason: grammatical error
              The ever-amazing (and ever-affordable) KY, Chemi-con's best kept secret.

              I'll probably be the only person going to SteamOS once it gets out of beta (ha ha.)

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                #8
                Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

                Yup, old capxon was known as good caps. You're probably right it was near its end of life back in late 2000 when the system stopped functioning. But anyway I do have several deer psu from 2002 with bad capxon caps; they are not showing any sign of bad but the rails are fuc*** to 11.4 and 4.6. This is one of those psu, once recapped its back to perfect ness.


                Speaking of bad caps, I think I might have to replace an 'Elgen' brand capacitor on my prehistoric Tandy 1000 TL/2's motherboard. How's about that for old-school??

                Sometimes I powered my Acer 386sx just to play Rattler Race yours is older what can it do?


                Attached Files
                days are so short when you actually do something..

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                  #9
                  Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

                  SkiFree! Wow, haven't seen that since the old Packard Hell...
                  You know there's something wrong when you open up a PSU and are glad to find Teapos.
                  Why I don't buy cheap cases!

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                    #10
                    Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

                    Originally posted by yanz
                    Yup, old capxon was known as good caps. You're probably right it was near its end of life back in late 2000 when the system stopped functioning. But anyway I do have several deer psu from 2002 with bad capxon caps; they are not showing any sign of bad but the rails are fuc*** to 11.4 and 4.6. This is one of those psu, once recapped its back to perfect ness.

                    Sometimes I powered my Acer 386sx just to play Rattler Race yours is older what can it do?
                    I use the Tandy 1000 TL/2 to play Master System .VGM music (with a player I wrote in QBasic ) Sometimes I play old DOS games, like LHX Attack Chopper, Lemmings, Alleycat and ZZT on it. I managed to get some 286+ games to work on it like Galactix, but they were not surprisingly very slow on this machine (which is kind of a cross-breed between the IBM PCjr and the IBM XT/286, it has a 286 cpu but it's only 8 MHz and it has the 8-bit XT ISA bus to a 512K Paradise video card!)
                    The ever-amazing (and ever-affordable) KY, Chemi-con's best kept secret.

                    I'll probably be the only person going to SteamOS once it gets out of beta (ha ha.)

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                      #11
                      Re: Ancient KME 230W AT PSU rebuild

                      ho, that sounds geek

                      it's kinda bring back some memories
                      http://arstechnica.com/articles/cult...al-share.ars/1
                      days are so short when you actually do something..

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