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  • superdoyle
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 15

    #1

    Antec BP500U Bad Caps

    I am recapping a power supply that quit turning on. I went and opened it up and it has 3 bad caps, 2 blown and 1 swelled. They are capxon. I have some extra caps laying around so i'm going to try to recap it. The 6.3v 2200uf i am replacing is a little shorter then the one that was in the psu. Will it still work long as it matches the volts and the uf?
  • mariushm
    Badcaps Legend
    • May 2011
    • 3799

    #2
    Re: Antec BP500U Bad Caps

    The physical dimensions won't tell you anything about how suitable the replacement capacitors are.

    You need to find the datasheet for those Capxon capacitors and see if the replacement capacitors are close to the specifications of the old ones.

    The impedance value (at 100kHz) needs to be as close as possible and the ripple should be very close to, or higher than the old one.

    Power supplies are sensitive when it comes to what capacitors are used, so you can't just grab a general purpose capacitor from Radioshack and install it and be sure it's going to last.

    If you want, post pictures with the insides of the power supply and tell us what's written on those capxon capacitors (uf value, voltage, brand name and series - it's usually a two letter code, this is important)

    As it doesn't start, you may want to check the fuse and the small capacitors by the main transformer, because if one of those is bad (the small ones don't always swell up) the power supply may not start.

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    • superdoyle
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 15

      #3
      Re: Antec BP500U Bad Caps

      Originally posted by mariushm
      The physical dimensions won't tell you anything about how suitable the replacement capacitors are.

      You need to find the datasheet for those Capxon capacitors and see if the replacement capacitors are close to the specifications of the old ones.

      The impedance value (at 100kHz) needs to be as close as possible and the ripple should be very close to, or higher than the old one.

      Power supplies are sensitive when it comes to what capacitors are used, so you can't just grab a general purpose capacitor from Radioshack and install it and be sure it's going to last.

      If you want, post pictures with the insides of the power supply and tell us what's written on those capxon capacitors (uf value, voltage, brand name and series - it's usually a two letter code, this is important)

      As it doesn't start, you may want to check the fuse and the small capacitors by the main transformer, because if one of those is bad (the small ones don't always swell up) the power supply may not start.

      Thanks for the reply. I dont have a camera but took out one capxon has the following on it,

      6.3v
      2200uf
      kf 105c
      c648
      vent

      the new ones i have are

      kzg
      6.3v
      2200uf
      105c
      3(7)
      oa

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      • mariushm
        Badcaps Legend
        • May 2011
        • 3799

        #4
        Re: Antec BP500U Bad Caps

        Ok, so it's Capxon KF series.

        The datasheet is here:

        So your capacitor is one of the two below.

        2200uF 10x20 1380mA 0.09
        2200uF 10x25 1470mA 0.095

        The KZG series datasheet is here:

        2200uF 10x20 2550mA 0.013

        Since you say the UCC capacitors are shorter, you probably have the 10x25 variant of Capxon KF.

        The KZG is good when it comes to ripple it can handle (2550mA > 1470 mA) but its impedance is much lower at 0.013 compared to 0.09.

        This can cause instability on the output of the power supply, if the power supply was designed with that higher impedance in mind.

        In addition, the KZG series, along with KZJ if I remember correctly, are two series made by United Chemi Con which have issues, they tend to go bad at some point, often without swelling up.
        Any other series from UnitedChemiCon I would have no problems recommending.

        For testing purposes, I think it would be OK to use this KZG, but for actual use, you shouldn't. Try getting a capacitor that has an impedance closer to 0.09... something around 0.05 would probably be ok.

        These for example would be more suitable:

        Nichicon HE : http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...1472-ND/589213

        UCC KY : http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...1491-ND/756007

        UCC LXZ : http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...1882-ND/756398

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Antec BP500U Bad Caps

          Prey tell, why does the bigger 10x25mm cap have higher ESR, but also higher ripple current?
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • superdoyle
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 15

            #6
            Re: Antec BP500U Bad Caps

            Well my first psu recap was unsuccessful. I plugged it in to a known good pc and got no power out of it. This leads me to the 400v 330uf possibly could be bad or theres something else thats wrong with it. I have triple checked my solder joints and looks good.

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            • Pentium4
              CapXon Be Gone
              • Sep 2011
              • 3741
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Antec BP500U Bad Caps

              I would up the capacitance too on at least the 12V because these things have high ripple, that's what I did on mine.

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              • ben7
                Capaholic
                • Jan 2011
                • 4059
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Antec BP500U Bad Caps

                Originally posted by superdoyle
                Well my first psu recap was unsuccessful. I plugged it in to a known good pc and got no power out of it. This leads me to the 400v 330uf possibly could be bad or theres something else thats wrong with it. I have triple checked my solder joints and looks good.
                A few things to do:

                1. Check fuse

                2. Check for 5vsb

                3. Check the voltage on the 400v capacitor.
                Muh-soggy-knee

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