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  • robgerr
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 70
    • Italy

    #1

    Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

    Goodmorning friends of the forum. This laptop has isegent defects:
    When I give power on it does not react,
    I have to make several attempts until that main power up.
    I have no image on both lcd and vga screens.
    I noticed that it warms up the pch.
    The tensions seem to be there in the coils except that of the cpu (cpu_core) that are missing.
    I tried to exchange the cpu but nothing.
    I tried to reprogram the bios with dumps found on the net but nothing to do.
    I did a reflow on the NVIDIA bga but nothing.
    Also changed the ram but nothing
    The resistance on coils with inserted cpu and 12 Ohm, I think it is correct.
    The thing that leaves me perpplesso and that pch warms up a lot and does not seem normal.
    Since I do not have printing on the board it is difficult to follow the diagram but I have measured near the pch of the capacitors and I find a resistance of 3ohm which seems to me low.
    I checked on U511 at pin 7 and I find 3V.
    Thank you
  • caspian
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2015
    • 1589
    • Laptop

    #2
    Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

    It is possible that the PCH is faulty. It is also possible that the CPU-VCore circuit is faulty.
    Anyway, you need the schematic of this laptop.

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    • piernov
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2016
      • 4435
      • France

      #3
      Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

      If it's the PCH and not the GPU, 3 ohms would be too low.
      OpenBoardView β€” https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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      • robgerr
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 70
        • Italy

        #4
        Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

        I measured the voltage in the capacitors where I find the 3 ohm and when I give the power on I find a voltage of 1.05v in these capacitors

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        • mcplslg123
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jun 2015
          • 7262
          • india

          #5
          Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

          If you have schematic, Then fiest check VR ON signal is present or not on kbc as well as vcore ic. Next you need to check voltages on all pins of vcore ic.

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          • robgerr
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 70
            • Italy

            #6
            Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

            yes I have the scheme. Tomorrow I take note of all the tensions on the IC that produces the vcc core

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            • robgerr
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 70
              • Italy

              #7
              Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

              schematic:
              https://we.tl/FwkUvd0jE3
              U511 -iSL95831AHRTZ-T VOLTAGE:
              pin 1 0v
              pin 2 0v
              pin 3 0v
              pin 4 1,05v
              pin 5 1,05v
              pin 6 1,05v
              pin 7 3,11v
              pin 8 0v
              pin 9 0v
              pin 10 1,05v
              pin 11 0,67v
              pin 12 3,47v
              pin 13 3,30v
              pin 14 0v
              pin 15 0v
              pin 16 0v
              pin 17 0v
              pin 18 0v
              pin 19 0v
              pin 20 0v
              pin 21 0v
              pin 22 5,08v
              pin 23 19,25v
              pin 24 0v
              pin 25 4,77v
              pin 26 0v
              pin 27 0v
              pin 28 0v
              pin 29 0v
              pin 30 5,09 v
              pin 31 5,09 v
              pin 32 0v
              pin 33 0v
              pin 34 0v
              pin 36 0v
              pin 36 4,77v
              pin 37 0v
              pin 38 0v
              pin 39 0v
              pin 40 4,82v
              pin 41 0,11v
              pin 42 3.55v
              pin 43 5,09 v
              pin 44 0,8v
              pin 45 0,v
              pin 46 0v
              pin 47 0v
              pin 48 0v

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              • caspian
                Badcaps Legend
                • Oct 2015
                • 1589
                • Laptop

                #8
                Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                replace U511 and Q513 and Q512 and Q515 and Q514 at the same time if you have got spare ones. this may solve the issue. Although I am not sure this will fix the problem, but this is the best work you can do now.
                Last edited by caspian; 08-11-2018, 12:40 PM.

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                • robgerr
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 70
                  • Italy

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                  thank's caspian

                  I found iSL95831 instead of iSL95831A but reading on other forums I saw that it worked on this board. Unfortunately I did not have the mosfet, I soldered ISL but still nothing, I do not have the cpu_core

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                  • caspian
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 1589
                    • Laptop

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                    Now, remove Q513 and Q512 and Q515 and Q514 from the board the test them separately using your multimeter. then while the mosfets are removed, check voltages on all pins of U511. It takes time to reach a successful repair step by step.
                    have you soldered U511 properly?
                    Last edited by caspian; 08-13-2018, 09:24 AM.

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                    • robgerr
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 70
                      • Italy

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                      sorry for my absence with this laptop. I checked the mostet unsolder from the pcb and they are fine. I have re-soldered them in the pcb to avoid confusing the order of how they are soldered since the mainboard has no screen printing

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                      • caspian
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 1589
                        • Laptop

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                        check whether there is any short on the CPU_Core circuit.

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                        • robgerr
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 70
                          • Italy

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                          ok, check U511 pads for low resistence between pads and ground?

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                          • caspian
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 1589
                            • Laptop

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                            yes, that is right.

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                            • robgerr
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 70
                              • Italy

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                              u511 resistence (without cpu inserted)
                              pin 1 inf resistence
                              pin 2 17.3kohm
                              pin 3 11.60kohm
                              pin 4 70ohm
                              pin 5 80ohm
                              pin 6 60 ohm
                              pin 7 3.80kohm
                              pin 8 11.56kohm
                              pin 9 30kohm
                              pin 10 66ohm
                              pin 11 22kohm
                              pin 12 14kohm
                              pin 13 inf resistence
                              pin 14 10kohm
                              pin 15 inf resistence
                              pin 16 25kohm
                              pin 17 20kohm
                              pin 18 7kohm
                              pin 19 100ohm
                              pin 20 100kohm
                              pin 21 30kohm
                              pin 22 150 kohm
                              pin 23 110kohm
                              pin 24 5kohm
                              pin 25 inf ohm
                              pin 26 20kohm
                              pin 27 20 kohm
                              pin 28 1ohm
                              pin 29 inf resistence
                              pin 30 170 kohm
                              pin 31 170 kohm
                              pin 32 inf resistence
                              pin 33 1ohm
                              pin 34 inf reistence
                              pin 35 70 kohm
                              pin 36 inf resistence
                              pin 37 inf reistence
                              pin 38 inf reistence
                              pin 39 inf resistence
                              pin 40 inf resistence
                              pin 41 inf resistence
                              pin 42 inf resistence
                              pin 43 150kohm
                              pin 44 inf resistence
                              pin 45 150kohm
                              pin 46 116kohm
                              pin 47 inf resistence
                              pin 48 inf resistence
                              Last edited by robgerr; 09-05-2018, 10:04 AM.

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                              • caspian
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 1589
                                • Laptop

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                                they seem fine. how much resistance is at L5 to GND?

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                                • robgerr
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Apr 2012
                                  • 70
                                  • Italy

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                                  how much resistance is at L5 to GND?
                                  4ohm

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                                  • caspian
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Oct 2015
                                    • 1589
                                    • Laptop

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                                    At this point, I have no good idea about the CPU_Core circuit.
                                    Having 4 Ohms on the 1.05v rail and a hot PCH does not seem good. But I do not know either the PCH, or the GPU, or another component is shorted.

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                                    • piernov
                                      Super Moderator
                                      • Jan 2016
                                      • 4435
                                      • France

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                                      P1.05V being the core voltage for the PCH, this would point to a bad PCH. Could be another component, so let's check what's on the line.
                                      U525 has P1.05V going in, but also some 3.3V rails so if it was shorted, the 3.3V rails probably should be as well. U525 being bad would prevent the PCH from working, but since it handles RTC clock PCH wouldn't leave S5 state. Could be partially working…
                                      U505 is the LAN controller, they often go bad after lightning strike so this would be a good candidate, but it shouldn't prevent CPU VCore from coming up if it's only partially shorted.
                                      The GPU uses 1.05V only for the PLL, if it was bad and creating a partial short on the 1.05V line, the resistance on GPU VCore would most likely be very low as well. But it's hard to say since it's supposed to be low. Let's say that it may be higher than 8 ohms in normal condition, and lower than 3 ohms if it's bad, but that may not be right.
                                      The CPU, but since it's out of the socket it's excluded.

                                      First check resistance on GPU VCore. Then you could pull U525 and U505 and check if the resistance goes up. If it doesn't, probably PCH. I except the resistance on the PCH core voltage line to be higher than 10 ohms.
                                      OpenBoardView β€” https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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                                      • robgerr
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Apr 2012
                                        • 70
                                        • Italy

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung RV520 (main BA4-01608A Scala2_R) no video and no cpu_core

                                        thank's piernov.
                                        if I try to inject 1.05 volts and see what warms up? So I avoid desoldering components

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