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  • Alschepmist
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 70
    • Germany

    #1

    Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

    Hi to all (sorry for my bad englisch i speak italian) my problem ist that i have no power and no chrging battery on my sony vaio vpc sa4w9e it see like the cnx 458 dont give out 19 v fuses are okay please help
  • bluestone
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jun 2011
    • 343
    • Ghana

    #2
    Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

    Check for short on the board first

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    • Alschepmist
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2018
      • 70
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      #3
      Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

      You are reading of mainboard or cnx 458 because i have no short on mainboard

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      • caspian
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2015
        • 1589
        • Laptop

        #4
        Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

        Fortunately, the CNX458's schematics file is available:
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53164

        First, measure voltage on pins of W_PQ81 and W_PQ82.

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        • Alschepmist
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2018
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          #5
          Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

          So thats what i v got i hope is understable.
          Attached Files

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          • caspian
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2015
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            #6
            Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

            these measurements do not give any clue. Instead, voltage on pins of W_PQ81 and W_PQ82 are important.

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            • Alschepmist
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2018
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              #7
              Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

              Direct on the pin are dificult to measaure another way ?

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              • caspian
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                • Oct 2015
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                #8
                Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                instead, measure voltage on both sides of W_PC22 and W_PC19 and W_PC10.

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                • Alschepmist
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                  • Jul 2018
                  • 70
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                  #9
                  Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                  Im in trouble i cannot find the datashet IRFH3707TRPBF i only find IRFH3707PbF but her pin 1.2.3 are G but in the schematich have to be 1 S. 2 G. 3D. Or my fault?

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                  • Alschepmist
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2018
                    • 70
                    • Germany

                    #10
                    Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                    So i have meauserd w_pq81 and w_pq82 and at w_pq82 at all 6 pin 0 v. at w_pq81 at pin 8 i have got 0.8 volt changing then 0 at pin 7,6,5 0.3 volt

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                    • caspian
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                      • Oct 2015
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                      #11
                      Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                      W_PQ81 and W_PQ82 have no accessible pins. I think you did not measure them properly.
                      unfortunately, W_PC22 and W_PC19 and W_PC10 are not labeled on the board.

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                      • Alschepmist
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                        • Jul 2018
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                        #12
                        Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                        The pin were accesible for me i used needle but where i can found DC_IN_MOS? Or DC_IN_G1?

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                        • caspian
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                          • Oct 2015
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                          #13
                          Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                          they are connected to W_PC19 which is not labeled. Now, you should measure 19v on at least one pin of W_PQ81. then, make sure you measured the other pins of W_PQ81 and W_PQ82 correctly.

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                          • Alschepmist
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                            • Jul 2018
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                            #14
                            Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                            So definetely DC_IN_MOS are 0 volt i sourced at all the point but still everywere 0

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                            • caspian
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Oct 2015
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                              #15
                              Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                              In addition, measure resistance to GND on all pins of W_PQ81 and W_PQ82 and on the yellow capacitors which are located near W_PQ81 and W_PQ82.
                              you can replace W_PQ81 as the first try to see what will happen.

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                              • Alschepmist
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                                • Jul 2018
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                                #16
                                Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                                I v got no resistance to gnd it s that normal ? I have no contact w_pq81 and gnd

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                                • caspian
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2015
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                                  yes, it is normal. Now measure resistance between the three pins of W_PQ81. I mean red probe on one pin and black probe on another pin. then, measure resistance between the three pins of W_PQ82.

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                                  • Alschepmist
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                                    • Jul 2018
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                                    So i think the problem is at w_pu2 BQ24725 beacause on pin 1 to 3 i have 0 volt but i should have 19v can be this the problem ?

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                                    • Alschepmist
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                                      • Jul 2018
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                                      And at w_pq81 pin number 3 on the schematic i v got 19 volt

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                                      • caspian
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                                        • Oct 2015
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Cnx 458 problem on sony vaio

                                        it can be w_pu2, but w_pq81 seems a more probable suspect. have you got another mosfet of the same model of w_pq81?

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