MacBook Pro 15" 2010 820-2850 no PPBUS_G3H, green light on

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  • vdrokko99
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    • Apr 2022
    • 16
    • Hungary

    #1

    MacBook Pro 15" 2010 820-2850 no PPBUS_G3H, green light on

    Hello,

    I'd like to ask help to repair 820-2850. There is green light, but not turning on because the PPVBUS_G3H is 0.5xxx V. I already measured resistance to GND, but no short ciurcuit. I did a few measure next to U7000,

    R7020 ok,
    R7050 ok,
    F7040 ok,
    SCM_RESET_L 3,4V
    CHRG_DCIN 16V,
    PP5V1_CHGR_VDD, and PP5V1_CHGR_VDDP is 0,5V but no short to GND

    I think the missing PP5V1_CHGR_VDD is the problem which is comes from and go to the U7000.
    This missing voltage means a defective U7000 or cause other missing voltage?

  • vladimir1909
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    • Apr 2016
    • 20
    • Peru

    #2
    Multimeter in diode mode and measure PP5V1_CHGR_VDD to GND

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    • vdrokko99
      Member
      • Apr 2022
      • 16
      • Hungary

      #3
      Originally posted by vladimir1909
      Multimeter in diode mode and measure PP5V1_CHGR_VDD to GND
      0.481V in diode mode, red probe to gnd.

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      • vdrokko99
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        • Apr 2022
        • 16
        • Hungary

        #4
        I noticed signs of previously maybe u7000 was replaced. So is removed and resolder. Now i have pp5v1_chgr 5V. Now ppbus_g3h is 4V.

        Pin 27/28 resistance is 20 ohms
        Pin 17/18 resistance is 2.3 ohms
        Pin 6 CHGR_CELL 2.55V

        aaand..

        SMBUS_SLC_5_G3_SLC is pulsating 0-3.4V app. 1Hz.

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        • mon2
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          • Dec 2019
          • 13868
          • Canada

          #5
          Is F7040 removed? Suggest to remove it and confirm again if ppbus_g3h remains @ 4v. What is the resistance to ground now of ppbus_g3h?

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          • vdrokko99
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            • Apr 2022
            • 16
            • Hungary

            #6
            With removed F7040 is still 4V. Resistance to GND on F7040 Pin 2 is 12.2kOhm.

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            • vdrokko99
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              • Apr 2022
              • 16
              • Hungary

              #7
              I started to measure the voltage divider resistors for CHGR_CELL, R7012 is 1k as is should be but R7013 was 3kOhms instead of 1kOhm. I replaced to 1k, and now the voltage on CHGR_CELL is 1.7V

              CHGR_CELL 1.7V is ok?

              PPBUS_G3H is still 4V

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              • mon2
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                • Dec 2019
                • 13868
                • Canada

                #8
                Based on the resistor values, the CHGR_CELL voltage should be 50% of the source voltage of 3v3 so 1v7 sounds ok to me.

                Noting this region to be a fault, what is the voltage to ground of CHGR_ACIN?

                PP5V1_CHGR_VDD, and PP5V1_CHGR_VDDP is 0,5V
                ?? Not 5v0?

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                • mon2
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                  • Dec 2019
                  • 13868
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  I would replace U7000 again. The PP5V1_CHGR_VDD / PP5V1_CHGR_VDDP are based on an internal LDO that feeds off of CHGR_DCIN and you have a valid voltage at CHGR_DCIN.

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                  • vdrokko99
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                    • Apr 2022
                    • 16
                    • Hungary

                    #10
                    Sorry, PP5V1_CHGR_VDD is 5,0V, sorry.

                    Today i will order 10 pcs of ISL from AliExpress. I will replace again. Thanks for advice, as soon as arrives the new chips, and replace, i will post.

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                    • mon2
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                      • Dec 2019
                      • 13868
                      • Canada

                      #11
                      Test the voltage to ground of:

                      SMBUS_SMC_BSA_SCL
                      SMBUS_SMC_BSA_SDA


                      at battery connector J6950. Still suspecting a defective ISL @ U7000 based on the lower than normal power up voltage.

                      Also review the DCin mosfets used by the ISL @ Q7080, Q7085.

                      Remove all power and test their resistance as normal:

                      source / drain
                      source / gate
                      gate / drain

                      of each.

                      Are you using a true Apple charger?

                      What is the voltage to ground of PM_BATLOW_L? If this signal is LOW then the power adapter is not suitable for this logic board.

                      See the flow chart here:

                      https://logi.wiki/index.php/G3_to_S3..._and_Broadwell

                      U7000 is still the key suspect.

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                      • vdrokko99
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                        • Apr 2022
                        • 16
                        • Hungary

                        #12
                        CHGR_CELL should be 3.42V, but usig 50% voltage divider, this value is not passible.
                        So i started to googlin' for a hi-res picture of the logic board and seems like there is no R7013
                        If no R7013, no voltage divider. I will remove R7013 and I will measure PPBUS_G3H again.
                        Attached Files

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                        • vdrokko99
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                          • Apr 2022
                          • 16
                          • Hungary

                          #13
                          I removed two resistor, R7013, and one more, i dont remember the exact name, both of them are non-exist on the picture shown. And a board starts. Every voltage was ok, but black screen. After C9560 replace, looks good. There is picture, and boot. I don't understand why R7013 exist on schematic. Thank you for your help, and advice!

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                          • mon2
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                            • Dec 2019
                            • 13868
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Here is how I understand this chart:

                            If the battery pack is with

                            1 cell; then DO NOT stuff R7012 and DO NOT stuff R7013 = floating / open line
                            2 cell; then DO NOT STUFF R7012 but stuff R7013
                            3 cell; then stuff R7012 but DO NOT stuff R7013

                            This strapping of resistors will define the battery pack charge voltage and currents.

                            Well done on your repair!

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