VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

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  • lefos
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2013
    • 321
    • Greece

    #1

    VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

    Hello,

    Strange problem here..On this laptop there are randomly pressed buttons. Firstly seemed to be from the keyboard but even if it is disconnected from the board and you can touch the keyboard's connector the laptop has the same problem! With external keyboard of course it works ok .
    I have already checked with a new keyboard with no result.Its motherboard is MBX-243.
    There is no liquid damage and the laptop is in perfect condition.
    I have already reflowed the HM65 chipset without any positive result.
    The problem might be from the winbond chip but I would like a second opinion here.

    Thanks for your time.
  • whaldsz
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2013
    • 395
    • Philippines

    #2
    Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

    How about cleaning the board first with IPA, Trace the lines that go from keyboard connector to the winbond chip before you replace this chip?

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    • lefos
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Nov 2013
      • 321
      • Greece

      #3
      Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

      Thank you for your kind reply. I have already cleaned the board and the connector with isopropyl alcohol but nothing changed. I had to give the laptop back to its owner because he needed it. I tried to search for the diagram but had no luck. Can somebody help me with that?

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      • lefos
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Nov 2013
        • 321
        • Greece

        #4
        Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

        Hello,
        Just wanted to inform that my customer brought back and left it to me for further check. After changing the winbond ic it works. Might help somebody in the future.

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        • spidey
          climbs
          • Dec 2012
          • 648
          • Cyprus

          #5
          Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

          change ec.

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          • lefos
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Nov 2013
            • 321
            • Greece

            #6
            Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

            Ec?

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            • orientalsniper
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Apr 2013
              • 459
              • USA

              #7
              Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

              Originally posted by lefos
              Ec?
              He meant the EC chip, looks almost like the BIOS but with lesser storage. When you said Winbond chip, did you mean the BIOS chip?

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              • lefos
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Nov 2013
                • 321
                • Greece

                #8
                Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

                No I didn't meant the bios chip. It is the npce791la0dx winbond.

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                • orientalsniper
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 459
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

                  Is that the KBC? I had a similar problem in a Toshiba Mini and I changed the board. Didn't even check the Nuvoton chip

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                  • lefos
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 321
                    • Greece

                    #10
                    Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

                    Yes the same happened to me! Ordered keyboard but had the same issue. The laptop `types` characters even with keyboard`s flexible cable disconnected. Anyway hope I could help somebody someday on this one.

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                    • spidey
                      climbs
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 648
                      • Cyprus

                      #11
                      Re: VPCF21Z1E strange keyboard problems

                      EC = Embedded Controller = KBC = Keyboard Controller Chip

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