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  • kingskie
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2014
    • 249
    • indonesia

    #1

    Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

    Hi All,

    I got macbook air 820-00165 with green light but no fan spin.
    Measurements:

    PPBUS_G3H = 8.14V
    PP3V3_S5 = 0V
    PP5V_S5 = 0V
    SMC_WAKE_L = 3.12V
    SMC_ONOFF_L = 3.4V
    SMC_RESET_L = 3.38V

    should i change the U7501 first?
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 13857
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

    No, measure the voltage to ground of:

    SMBUS_SMC_5_G3_SCL
    SMBUS_SMC_5_G3_SDA


    Post the measurements.

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    • kingskie
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Oct 2014
      • 249
      • indonesia

      #3
      Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

      Originally posted by mon2
      no, measure the voltage to ground of:

      smbus_smc_5_g3_scl
      smbus_smc_5_g3_sda


      post the measurements.
      smbus_smc_5_g3_scl = 0.492
      smbus_smc_5_g3_sda = 0.491

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      • mon2
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2019
        • 13857
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

        I think you are in DIODE mode?

        Meter in DC volts (10 volts or higher).

        Red meter probe to point to test.
        Black meter probe to ground (shield is ok).

        Post each voltage measurement.

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        • kingskie
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Oct 2014
          • 249
          • indonesia

          #5
          Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

          Originally posted by mon2
          I think you are in DIODE mode?

          Meter in DC volts (10 volts or higher).

          Red meter probe to point to test.
          Black meter probe to ground (shield is ok).

          Post each voltage measurement.
          sorry @mon2 it is 3.4V for both

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 13857
            • Canada

            #6
            Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

            Voltage is correct and confirms the required pull-up resistors are present.

            The SMC has to communicate with the ISL chip to boost the ppbus_g3h voltage. Your voltage is lower so this event did not take place. Communication is over these SMBUS lines.

            Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode.

            Place one probe on a point closest to the ISL chip to measure the smbus_smc_5_g3_scl line. Other meter probe to a point closest to the SMC chip, same line to test. Sometimes, with liquid damage / corrosion, the trace is broken for these interface lines. So you can see the 3v4 but the smc is unable to communicate with the ppbus_g3h ISL chip. Confirm that the traces are not broken with a resistance check. If your meter beeps a tone in diode mode, you can use it for the same purpose.

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            • kingskie
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2014
              • 249
              • indonesia

              #7
              Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

              Originally posted by mon2
              Voltage is correct and confirms the required pull-up resistors are present.

              The SMC has to communicate with the ISL chip to boost the ppbus_g3h voltage. Your voltage is lower so this event did not take place. Communication is over these SMBUS lines.

              Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode.

              Place one probe on a point closest to the ISL chip to measure the smbus_smc_5_g3_scl line. Other meter probe to a point closest to the SMC chip, same line to test. Sometimes, with liquid damage / corrosion, the trace is broken for these interface lines. So you can see the 3v4 but the smc is unable to communicate with the ppbus_g3h ISL chip. Confirm that the traces are not broken with a resistance check. If your meter beeps a tone in diode mode, you can use it for the same purpose.
              i measure both path and all beeps. should i change the ISL chip?
              the SMC_BC_ACOK is 3.38V. normally should be 3.42V right?

              N.B
              there is no sign of liquid damage or corrosion
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              Last edited by kingskie; 01-08-2023, 11:38 PM.

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              • kingskie
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Oct 2014
                • 249
                • indonesia

                #8
                Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

                anyone can help?

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                • reformatt
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 1398
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

                  If PPBUS_G3H is 8.1V, then your ISL is working fine. It should be 8.6V (with no battery attached) when the SMC is properly running. So 8.1V means your issue is the SMC.

                  Check J6100 first for corrosion/crap or any bug shit that is bridging pins. If ok, then check around U5110 (provides SMC_RESET_L and PP3V3_S5_AVREF_SMC), presence of the latter at L5001. Check C5002 for presence of PP3V42_G3H, C5010 for PP1V2_S5_SMC_VDDC. These are the basic areas to check before anything else.

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                  • reformatt
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 1398
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

                    Well thinking about it, PPBUS_G3H should be 8.3V without the SMC. So just double check that (make sure battery is not connected).

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                    • astrotek
                      New Member
                      • Oct 2022
                      • 3
                      • Philippines

                      #11
                      Re: Macbook Air A1466 820-00165 green light no fan spin

                      Originally posted by kingskie
                      Hi All,

                      I got macbook air 820-00165 with green light but no fan spin.
                      Measurements:

                      PPBUS_G3H = 8.14V
                      PP3V3_S5 = 0V
                      PP5V_S5 = 0V
                      SMC_WAKE_L = 3.12V
                      SMC_ONOFF_L = 3.4V
                      SMC_RESET_L = 3.38V

                      should i change the U7501 first?
                      Thats probably a SMC IC ISSUE = PPBUS_G3H it should be 8.6V

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