Clevo P650RS-G no post with dual-channel memory configuration

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  • Vspeed
    Senior Member
    • May 2022
    • 53
    • Portugal

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    Clevo P650RS-G no post with dual-channel memory configuration

    I have this Clevo laptop which is not booting when two RAM modules are inserted in dual-channel configuration.
    I think that channel B is defective.

    Can this be caused by the CPU? I ask this because there is a very visible discoloration in the CPU die. I can even spot with the naked eye, what looks to be straight lines, like tiny cracks in this spot. I notice this when replacing the thermal paste.

    The laptop works fine with the ram configuration as single.

    I don't have any experience with ram detection defects. Any hints on what to check?

    Thank you.
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  • jiroy
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jun 2016
    • 2416
    • Lebanon

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    Re: Clevo P650RS-G no post with dual-channel memory configuration

    Originally posted by Vspeed
    I have this Clevo laptop which is not booting when two RAM modules are inserted in dual-channel configuration.
    I think that channel B is defective.

    Can this be caused by the CPU? I ask this because there is a very visible discoloration in the CPU die. I can even spot with the naked eye, what looks to be straight lines, like tiny cracks in this spot. I notice this when replacing the thermal paste.

    The laptop works fine with the ram configuration as single.

    I don't have any experience with ram detection defects. Any hints on what to check?

    Thank you.
    I have many suggestions and questions :

    1 - Are all the SO-DIMM memory modules installed in the system identical (the same size and brand) in order to prevent unexpected system behavior. ?

    2- Did you try a single configuration on Channel B only ?

    3 - Did you update the Bios rom to the Latest version ?

    4 - What is the operating system installed ?
    If you're using a windows 10 32 Bit , it won't see more than 4GB . Although some older laptops can boot with such real memory difference , it won't be the same in systems capable of 64GB , like yours .Similar problems can occur with other operating systems .

    5 - Can you put a high resolution clear picture of the cracked die ?

    6 - It may not be the die as well , since if the coolers fixating managed to crack it , it could have cracked some lines . If so , well ......

    7 - Since it's not mentioned in the manual , Check in the Bios Settings , if there's "Memory advanced settings" . If there is , choose the right configuration .

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    • Vspeed
      Senior Member
      • May 2022
      • 53
      • Portugal

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      Re: Clevo P650RS-G no post with dual-channel memory configuration

      1 - Are all the SO-DIMM memory modules installed in the system identical (the same size and brand) in order to prevent unexpected system behavior. ?
      A: Yes, but the laptop only boots with slots 0 and 2 filled (channel A). It keeps powering on and off on it's own every 2 minutes or so. There is LCD backlit and keyboard backlit but nothing else.

      2- Did you try a single configuration on Channel B only ?
      A: Yes, tried only slot 1 and only slot 3, behaving as above.

      3 - Did you update the Bios rom to the Latest version ?
      A: Yes, however not with the reseller or whatever it's called of this exact model, which is Obsidian (https://twitter.com/obsidianpc_com). They stopped with the computer business a long time ago. Couldn't get the bin file from them, so I took the one from clevo official site.

      4 - What is the operating system installed ?
      If you're using a windows 10 32 Bit , it won't see more than 4GB . Although some older laptops can boot with such real memory difference , it won't be the same in systems capable of 64GB , like yours .Similar problems can occur with other operating systems .
      A: I have win10 64bit but this is not relevant as there is no bios post, just a black screen.

      5 - Can you put a high resolution clear picture of the cracked die ?
      It's not "cracked" but I do see discoloration. I'll disassemble it again later and show you.

      6 - It may not be the die as well , since if the coolers fixating managed to crack it , it could have cracked some lines . If so , well ......
      A: I don't think its cracked by pressure or a drop. I think it was due to high temperature.

      7 - Since it's not mentioned in the manual , Check in the Bios Settings , if there's "Memory advanced settings" . If there is , choose the right configuration.
      A: there are some memory customization parameters like timers but none that could affect this behavior. The laptop is booting fine with slots 0 and 2 filled with 8GB memory sticks.
      Last edited by Vspeed; 01-04-2023, 05:18 AM.

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      • jiroy
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jun 2016
        • 2416
        • Lebanon

        #4
        Re: Clevo P650RS-G no post with dual-channel memory configuration

        So far :


        Q: Yes, but the laptop only boots with slots 0 and 2 filled (channel A). It keeps powering on and off on it's own every 2 minutes or so. There is LCD backlit and keyboard backlit but nothing else.

        A : I went with this line of yours "The laptop works fine with the ram configuration as single." ..It's now a different story , and needs more time and analyzing to me .


        Q: I have win10 64bit but this is not relevant as there is no bios post, just a black screen.

        In your case , yes since you affirmed it , but I've seen many not booting laptops when both 264 pins are filled ..Updating Bios fixed them anyway .


        Q : It's not "cracked" but I do see discoloration. I'll disassemble it again later and show you.

        It's now critical to see the die ..

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        • Vspeed
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          • May 2022
          • 53
          • Portugal

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          Re: Clevo P650RS-G no post with dual-channel memory configuration

          It's hard to get it on pictures.
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