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    Series for long life on old electronics?

    I'm curious about opinions of what's best when recapping old electronics, with the goal being maximum long term reliability.

    I'll be buying some caps from digikey to fix my monitor, and need to pad the order so among other things I'm looking at replacing a cap in an Atari game console (built in late 80's). I had that cap blow up before on an older unit.

    It's an old 8-bit 6502 based machine, so ESR is an unlikely concern. It will sit idle for very long stretches between getting hooked up and used. I'd like it to still be working in 30 years.
    The original input cap is 2200uF 16V, and the pin spacing is such that a 16mm or 18mm cap will fit. I think it sees 12V from the power adapter, maybe a little less.

    I was looking at Nichicon PW, HE, and United Chemi-con LXY, LXZ caps. I suppose any of these are fine, but I'm curious about the practical differences between them when it comes to long life.

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    HE has a higher endurance rating than PW (10K hrs vs 8K), but PW has a stated shelf-life spec (1K hrs stored at 105C) while HE isn't stated. I've seen other caps with stated specs at 500hrs, while HE isn't stated at all, so that makes me wonder if HE isn't very good in that department.
    Also, HE is much cheaper than everything else for some reason.

    Between Chemicon LXY and LXZ - does anybody know the difference between these? They look identical. Both have same ESR at equal can sizes, 8K hrs endurance and 1K hr shelf life. The only difference I can find is in some of the available sizes. But if that's the only difference then I don't see why they'd have a different series designation. Might as well merge them under one label.

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    Re: Series for long life on old electronics?

    Use the Panasonic FC series capacitors. They are high reliability low impedance capacitors, and they are perfect for older less-demanding applications.
    Since you requested for a 16MM capacitor, here's the link on Digikey for the Panasonic FC series capacitor: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=P10258-ND

    If you want a longer lasting capacitor with lower impedance than the Panasonic FC series, look at the Panasonic FM series. I found a smaller 12.5MM 2200uf 16V capacitor for the FM series on Digikey, and here's the link: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=P12369-ND
    Last edited by Newbie2; 09-13-2008, 07:07 AM.
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      Re: Series for long life on old electronics?

      My problem with the FC's is that they have a significantly lower endurance rating (5000 hrs in the big sizes). That's still good, but some of the alternatives are higher (8000-10K hrs).
      Point in their favor is a stated shelf life spec (1000hr@105C), but that's also matched by the LXY/LXZ/PW's.

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        Re: Series for long life on old electronics?

        LXZ is smaller than LXY, LXV, etc., but are otherwise similar. For high endurance without the absolute lowest ESR, any of LXZ, PW, FC, FK or Rubycon ZL, ZLH will do just great - I just use whatever is available.

        Note that if you're using it in a conventional mains transformer-rectifier-filter application, you should avoid using low ESR caps in the filter. YMMV, but the inrush current as well as charging spikes could cause the rectifiers and/or transformer to fail prematurely.

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