Acer AL1917 restarting

[Amraks]

Re: Acer AL1917 restarting

thank you so much back to square one again.

[Amraks]

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ahhh is too lol I see it now.

[Behemot]

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I am not 100% sure, but I think the southern trace is going under the lower diode and should be connected with the right joint of the SMD position which is vacant there.

[Amraks]

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hey thanks for your reply but were did the negative side lead too?

[Behemot]

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Yes, that's it. Basically, I thought the cap is onnected only to one side, but there was trace from one side to other and cap was just soldered to the middle of it. I've just used short wire to connect it to the nearest joint.

It took some time to learn to be more carefoul than with 60W, but now it's quite OK. It is on the other hand wonderful for soldering in PSUs near ouput cabes (where tends to be lot of solder) or on newer motherboards with hard solder and also thick copper layers.

[Amraks]

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both sides are destroyed.

so negative side.

wondering were the negative side leads too.

[selldoor]

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Thanks for that - just to be sure - you mean the area in the yellow box?
Surprised with a 125W there wasnt a hole right through
Amraks has a similar problem - destroyed the same trace - I think.

[Behemot]

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Behemet - can you recall where the damaged trace was - perhaps mark it on a picture?
There are a couple of threads with restarting problems so might be relevant.

It's on the picture 4 of 5, bottom left corner with the SSOP-8 chip. You see there is the bad soldering with crystalized dump of solder, several centimeters north from the chip in them iddle between three SMD diodes? That's where I've burned the trace. As the problem was with el'cheapo PCB combined with my 125W soldering pistol, I think it is not usual actually

[Amraks]

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I just realized what u was doing selldoor thanks.

I hope it was the 220uf 50v cap trace.

[selldoor]

Re: Acer AL1917 restarting

Behemet - can you recall where the damaged trace was - perhaps mark it on a picture?
There are a couple of threads with restarting problems so might be relevant.

[Behemot]

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I think I have found the problem. When changing one small capacitor, I have burned tiny path near to it. I have connected the cap to one joint of the path but didn't notice it was actually interconenction between two parts of some circuit. After joining it with piece of wire, it behaves more normally. Now I need to get some VGA cable to test it

ADD/ oh, here is one in a drawer

[Behemot]

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Have you even read the thread? It works fine without CCFLs connected. Tried backlight from another display, same behaviour.

Voltage accross input capacitor is good. Problems persist no matter what capacitors I use so here is not the problem, the original ones were not the soruce of the problem. Everything now leads me to bad inverter transformers.

ADD// I've replaced input cap with no change. If it helps anything, I hear strange buzzing for all the time, except when it turns off. It comes from the main transformer.

If I disconnect one of the CCFLs on the B/W cable side, the other flashes for a fraction of second, but it seems the whole power supply stays turned on. So can it be bad transformer after all? It may be some problem on primary when the rectifier and fuse were blown, right?

[selldoor]

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Just curious, what voltages do you get across the

1) big filter cap? Is it stable?
2) little startup cap? Is it stable?
3) 5V SB?

when the problem happens?

Did you check these? I was trying to look for the startup cap but you have clipped the picture?

Can you try with it all connected up but with the ribbon cables to the lcd panel disconnected

[Behemot]

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Bot FETs as well as all fuses are fine.

[selldoor]

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Isn't it there like additional protection against high-voltage short? It is not any way burned to be conductive.

You are right I thought it was white turned yellow - next step would be brown and conductive but it was never white on closer look it is a sort of semi see through lacquer. - sorry.

[sabre504]

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If memory serves they should be AOP605

[selldoor]

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Chances are it is them.

Id vote for them as well

See here

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...&postcount=204

has restarting problem also, but cant read what chips you have and you did not say.

[Behemot]

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You also need to remove that yellowing glue

Isn't it there like additional protection against high-voltage short? It is not any way burned to be conductive.

[selldoor]

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You also need to remove that yellowing glue

[Lumberjack777]

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These boards also have SMD fuses on the bottom. Check the one I circled in red, and any others you might find on the bottom.