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  • Thermaltake
    Brain badcap
    • Aug 2015
    • 332
    • D12

    #1

    Alesis RA500 Amplifier

    Hi, I have some strange problem with my Alesis amplifier. One day I want to power the amplifier like every other day but it was completely dead, I opened it and checked the capacitors on PSU and found out that two big ones 63V 10000uF were strange but when I measure them they were fine. I decided to replaced them anyway with nippons because that Suscon is junk, I also replaced two 25V 220uF and one 35V 1000uF in that PSU because their capacitance was low under that 10% drop tolerance. After replacement amplifier turned On but signal from my sound card was not getting in amplifier, there was no sound and no bars were jumping on display on amplifier. Anyone have idea why and what to do ?
    Last edited by Thermaltake; 04-02-2016, 03:02 PM.
  • Thermaltake
    Brain badcap
    • Aug 2015
    • 332
    • D12

    #2
    Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

    I forgot to say yellow lights on the side on display appears when I power it On but they are gone in a seconds so I think there is no shorts or cracked solder.

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    • charis
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 61
      • greece

      #3
      Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

      Hi.
      Does the relay kick in?
      If no check the voltages.
      Maybe the lights go off because goes to protection mode.
      Also check the 2 preamp pcb voltages (and the potentiometer) after that go for the output mosfets check.
      Last edited by charis; 04-03-2016, 04:10 AM.

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      • Thermaltake
        Brain badcap
        • Aug 2015
        • 332
        • D12

        #4
        Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

        Originally posted by charis
        Hi.
        Does the relay kick in?
        If no check the voltages.
        Maybe the lights go off because goes to protection mode.
        Also check the 2 preamp pcb voltages (and the potentiometer) after that go for the output mosfets check.
        Nothing is kicking inside of the amplifier it's quiet. Could it be that relay is dead or something ?

        Yellow lights appear when I turn it on but that's normal, amplifier did that when it was working normally it's like his initialization or something when you power it up.

        I will check that mosfets and other voltages and let you know more when I do that.

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        • Thermaltake
          Brain badcap
          • Aug 2015
          • 332
          • D12

          #5
          Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

          I forgot to ask why check output mosfets if input is not coming through.

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          • charis
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 61
            • greece

            #6
            Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

            If you have blow mosfet the relay wont open to protect your speakers and psu.
            If the relay dont close put it 12 v on the input pins and see if work.
            If works and the mosfets are right check the 12v rail.
            I dont have a schematic.

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            • rhomanski
              nowhere man
              • Dec 2009
              • 5157
              • U S of A

              #7
              Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

              Here's the schematic.
              Attached Files
              sigpicThe Sky Is Falling

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              • charis
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2016
                • 61
                • greece

                #8
                Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                Ok very simple.
                After the transformer and brige rectifier the power goes to TA7317 who works as over curent ,voltage,speaker terminal short detector.The use about 50v.Pin 6 is the relay drive output pin 8 the muting pin1 current detection Pin2 voltage detection.The vcc for the chip should be about 50v on Pin9 -50v on pin5.
                To open the relay Pin 6 they send 5v square pulse with 3ms time period.
                When the relay close feed j7 and j8 terminals(where are also +15 -15v) and the signal from C1815 who is NPN transistor for muting and conect to pin 7 who is the part to the discharge circuit and have a diode protection D403.
                Also the relay have on the second side 2 caps c116 c216 after 2 same 4.7 resistors r161 r162 2watt.
                So check Vcc check pulse on pin 6 check Vee -50v.If all ok go to relay check voltages and also the c116 c216 and r161 r162 .
                Also the chip monitor the voltage and curent who goes to j4 and j6 terminals(you find there also +15 -15v)
                Last edited by charis; 04-03-2016, 05:37 PM.

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                • Thermaltake
                  Brain badcap
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 332
                  • D12

                  #9
                  Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                  Can you show me on pictures I can't find any of those numbers beside mosfet or anything that you are saying I'm kind of new at this so...
                  Attached Files

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                  • keeney123
                    Lauren
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2536
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                    So go to the schematic that rhomanski provided and go to page 14 find the TA3717p you will notice the marking U1, that is the chip number on the board. Pin1 usually has a indented circle on it. You can also google the pin out of TA3717P or google that number for the data sheet. That should start you off.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1459801803
                      Where is J1 Female connector for the +/- 15V power supply for Op Amp? Unless you removed it to take the pictures, otherwise check and see if you do have +/- supplies.
                      Last edited by budm; 04-05-2016, 10:50 AM.
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                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
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                      • Thermaltake
                        Brain badcap
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 332
                        • D12

                        #12
                        Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                        Originally posted by budm
                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1459801803
                        Where is J1 Female connector for the +/- 15V power supply for Op Amp? Unless you removed it to take the pictures, otherwise check and see if you do have +/- supplies.
                        I removed it because my phone could not fit in case

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                        • keeney123
                          Lauren
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2536
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                          If you go to your picture "1" of 9 at the bottom left in the middle of that section of the board is J1. The male connector is with the pins sticking out. The female connector would be the connector that would slide over the male pins.

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                          • Thermaltake
                            Brain badcap
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 332
                            • D12

                            #14
                            Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                            Looks like relay is dead, need to replace it and it won't be that dong woo junk again for sure and see if anything else is dead.

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                              Originally posted by Thermaltake
                              Looks like relay is dead, need to replace it and it won't be that dong woo junk again for sure and see if anything else is dead.
                              Can you please explain as to the Relay is Dead? The rely coil gets the DCV but it does not click on? or the relay is turned on but the contacts are bad?
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • Thermaltake
                                Brain badcap
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 332
                                • D12

                                #16
                                Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                                It looks like one leg is broken and plastic is kind of melted on it.

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                                • Thermaltake
                                  Brain badcap
                                  • Aug 2015
                                  • 332
                                  • D12

                                  #17
                                  Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                                  Amplifier is working again, relay is doing click now and working properly.

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                                  • keeney123
                                    Lauren
                                    • Sep 2014
                                    • 2536
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                                    Alright success!

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                                    • Thermaltake
                                      Brain badcap
                                      • Aug 2015
                                      • 332
                                      • D12

                                      #19
                                      Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                                      Thanks everyone for helping

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Alesis RA500 Amplifier

                                        Thanks for the follow-up.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

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