Electric Keyboard Piano No Sound

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  • ksotoszx
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    • Sep 2024
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    #1

    Electric Keyboard Piano No Sound

    Hi all, this is my first post on this forum, i will need the help of someone who knows in order to repair the old Electric Keyboard Piano that was given to me.
    It is a gold star brand, model gek s350. It lights up normally, everything seems to work but it has no sound. Neither from the keys nor from the ready melodies.
    -I haven't forgotten a plug in the headphones.
    -The capacitor that I touch with my finger (in the picture) has no resistance, as I measured with the multimeter, but I don't know if that's the reason.
    Before i attempt something on my own and possibly destroy it, i would appreciate if someone can guide me on how to fix this.
    If you want more pics, i can upload, instantly!
    Thanks in advance

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    Last edited by ksotoszx; 09-25-2024, 08:17 AM.
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 14255
    • Canada

    #2
    Model typo?

    Keyboard has part # GEK-S325 in the shared pics.

    Service manual is attached.

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    Last edited by mon2; 09-25-2024, 08:38 AM.

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    • ksotoszx
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      • Sep 2024
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      #3
      Originally posted by mon2
      Model typo?

      Keyboard has part # GEK-S325 in the shared pics.

      Service manual is attached.

      Thanks you mon2. I will check it, right now

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      • CapLeaker
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        • Dec 2014
        • 8182
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        #4
        I would first take those two square socketed IC’s out and reseat them. Then check if all your power rails are up and running.

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        • Sam Scarbo
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          • Oct 2023
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          #5
          Did you try to plug in a headphone to see if there was any sound?

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          • ksotoszx
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            • Sep 2024
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            #6
            Originally posted by CapLeaker
            I would first take those two square socketed IC’s out and reseat them. Then check if all your power rails are up and running.
            Hi, thanks for advice, i just unplug the 2 square socketed IC’s, reseat them but nothing.. Power rails seems ok.

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            • ksotoszx
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              • Sep 2024
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              #7
              Originally posted by Sam Scarbo
              Did you try to plug in a headphone to see if there was any sound?
              Hi, i want to try this but for now i haven' t 1⁄4 in audio jack to test..​

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              • CapLeaker
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                • Dec 2014
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                #8
                Originally posted by ksotoszx

                Hi, i want to try this but for now i haven' t 1⁄4 in audio jack to test..​
                Yes, because that disconnects the speaker. there is also an AUX jack to look at.
                On that service manual page 4 there is a full block diagram on how this thing works. Dismiss the digital stuff for now and go straight to the TDA1311 which is a DAC. You should be able see something on the output pins with an oscilloscope if you play or strike a key.

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                • ksotoszx
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                  • Sep 2024
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                  #9
                  I have 2 questions,
                  a) How to test an ic (pic1)?
                  b) These capacitors (pics 2,3) as seen, are ok? (with multimeter shows that have resistor, except one that when i connect with to multimeter shows negative polarity resistance!?
                  c) Last photo is manual what to check.
                  Any ideas appreciated!
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                  • ksotoszx
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                    • Sep 2024
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by CapLeaker

                    Yes, because that disconnects the speaker. there is also an AUX jack to look at.
                    On that service manual page 4 there is a full block diagram on how this thing works. Dismiss the digital stuff for now and go straight to the TDA1311 which is a DAC. You should be able see something on the output pins with an oscilloscope if you play or strike a key.
                    I totally agree but I don't have an oscilloscope. With a multimeter can I see something? Thanks you.
                    Just unplugged the headphone cable from the board but nothing..

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 31050
                      • Albion

                      #11
                      if you jack the volume up do the speakers hum at all?
                      touch the pins of the volume pot with a soldering iron and see if you get a loud hum.

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                      • CapLeaker
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                        • Dec 2014
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ksotoszx

                        I totally agree but I don't have an oscilloscope. With a multimeter can I see something? Thanks you.
                        Just unplugged the headphone cable from the board but nothing..
                        All you can do is to check that each IC is getting power to their proper pins. From the DAC the left and right channels are having their own circuit. Some even have their own IC. The problem is either the DAC, no data input to the DAC, or some voltage missing to an IC which handles both channels. etc. Its gotta be something common to both channels. Ummm... I suggest you borrow an oscilloscope.

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