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  • mariushm
    Badcaps Legend
    • May 2011
    • 3799

    #21
    Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

    Originally posted by vestaviascott
    That would certainly make it brain dead simple, but there is no such diagram to be found. That's why I'm asking how to test the polarity without that diagram to guide me.
    Grab a multimeter. Put it in continuity mode. Put one probe on the negative in the battery compartment and touch the outside of the barrel connector with your other probe. if there's continuity, you know the outside is negative and center is positive.
    If needed, plug one of your jacks into the connector to make it easier to connect the probe of your multimeter to the exterior of the connector of your machine.

    Originally posted by vestaviascott
    The machine has a barrel type connector. How would I connect a USB charger to it?
    A usb cable is cheap, often less than 1$. plug cable in the usb charger, cut the connector on the other end. you'll have 2 or 4 wires inside, ground (black usually), voltage (red usually) and optionally data wires (usually white and green)

    worse case scenario , you can grab a couple of D batteries and either solder or tape (with some good electrical tape) the positive and negative wires, each to one battery .. then put the batteries in the compartment ....

    your battery compartment is most likely this :

    negative inside device --- [ - +] [ - +] [ - +] [ - +] --- positive inside device

    so you only need to have 2 batteries inside or something that would press the wires onto the terminals, one on each edge of the compartment, with the wires connected to the metal that's touching the terminals inside the compartment.
    the top lid just makes the connections between the batteries, and if you connect wires directly you don't care about it, no need to have 4 batteries.

    apologies for the horrible typing, my main keyboard just died on me today and this is a horrible 3$ keyboard with crappy keys, have to punch the keys to work, so i may miss some letters and can't be bothered with uppercase.

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    • vestaviascott
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 100
      • United States

      #22
      Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

      Originally posted by mariushm
      Grab a multimeter. Put it in continuity mode. Put one probe on the negative in the battery compartment and touch the outside of the barrel connector with your other probe. if there's continuity, you know the outside is negative and center is positive.
      Exactly what I was looking for. Got it. Thanks.

      Originally posted by mariushm
      A usb cable is cheap, often less than 1$. plug cable in the usb charger, cut the connector on the other end. you'll have 2 or 4 wires inside, ground (black usually), voltage (red usually) and optionally data wires (usually white and green)

      worse case scenario , you can grab a couple of D batteries and either solder or tape (with some good electrical tape) the positive and negative wires, each to one battery .. then put the batteries in the compartment ....

      your battery compartment is most likely this :

      negative inside device --- [ - +] [ - +] [ - +] [ - +] --- positive inside device

      so you only need to have 2 batteries inside or something that would press the wires onto the terminals, one on each edge of the compartment, with the wires connected to the metal that's touching the terminals inside the compartment.
      the top lid just makes the connections between the batteries, and if you connect wires directly you don't care about it, no need to have 4 batteries.

      apologies for the horrible typing, my main keyboard just died on me today and this is a horrible 3$ keyboard with crappy keys, have to punch the keys to work, so i may miss some letters and can't be bothered with uppercase.
      Thanks for the explanation and covering all points. It's really appreciated. I'll do the tests as you indicate.

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      • vestaviascott
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 100
        • United States

        #23
        Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

        Originally posted by budm
        I would do the research online to find out what the original power supply is capable of and it should also have polarity printed on the power supply itself. BTW, some of them may use AC output instead of DC, that is why you need to do research first.
        BTW, the center pin of typical 5.5 mm barrel may be 2.1mm or 2.5 mm so you need to verify that also since 2.5mm of the adapter will fit into 2.1mm pin but it will not make proper contact.
        Thanks, especially for the 2.1mm vs 2.5mm tip. Tightest fit that works?

        About the first part of your response, I'm finding, when I search for power adapters for these machines, the output specs on the adapter pics are ALWAYS blurred out or removed, likely to prevent you from sourcing a generic adapter matched to volts and amps for the machine.

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        • vestaviascott
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2018
          • 100
          • United States

          #24
          Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

          It was damn tedious getting those wires to stick with electrical tape, especially as I pushed them into their sockets on the console, but she lit up! The fan and the resistance motor appear to work as expected too.







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          • vestaviascott
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2018
            • 100
            • United States

            #25
            Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

            Originally posted by mariushm
            A usb cable is cheap, often less than 1$. plug cable in the usb charger, cut the connector on the other end. you'll have 2 or 4 wires inside, ground (black usually), voltage (red usually) and optionally data wires (usually white and green)
            I really appreciate your suggestion here.

            But, I'm not clear on how you are suggesting that I connect the cut USB cable to the elliptical's DC input adapter. Its a barrel type AC/DC adapter female receptacle. How would I insert a cut USB cable into it? Perhaps you are suggesting that I splice a properly sized adapter plug into the cut USB cable and then plug that into the elliptical?

            That would allow me to use the universal power supply I have since it will output 6v and 2.1amps to the USB. And if the USB cable's output end is a properly sized pin (rather than a USB socket end), it should work in concept.

            However, if you are suggesting I use a USB charger (like the white iPhone chargers), rather than my adjustable univeral adapter (that I can dial up a specific output voltage matched to my machine's requirements) How do I know that the voltage and amperage are correct (need to be 6 volts 2 amps)
            Last edited by vestaviascott; 09-05-2018, 09:50 PM.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

              So what is the model number of this elliptical machine?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • vestaviascott
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2018
                • 100
                • United States

                #27
                Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

                Originally posted by budm
                So what is the model number of this elliptical machine?
                Its a Pro-Form 850 Elliptical Model # PFEL5105.1

                I've just ordered a replacement battery cover for it but I'm not going to order an AC adapter for it since the batteries with the cover are fine for operation. But being able to use my adjustable power adapter until the battery cover gets here would be nice if I can figure that out with the 2amp USB splice.

                SearsPartsDirect gave me free shipping on the cover and the grand total was less than $8 bucks. Hopefully it gets here sooner than the Sept 20 estimated arrival on the order confirmation!
                Last edited by vestaviascott; 09-05-2018, 11:34 PM.

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                • vestaviascott
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 100
                  • United States

                  #28
                  Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

                  BTW, here's but one example of how these replacement adapters output specs get doctored out of sales page photos:

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

                    At least it shows center pin is +.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • vestaviascott
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 100
                      • United States

                      #30
                      Re: Center Pin Polarity Check?

                      Originally posted by budm
                      At least it shows center pin is +.
                      True on this one, most don't even show that - or they are so low res you can't make out if its a + or -. This one's not for the 850 elliptical however.

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