Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

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  • Spork Schivago
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    Maybe something like this?

    http://www.techtoolsupply.com/Produc...FU1bhgod6oMBYw

    But it doesn't look like I can use this with live wires...at least not 120VAC live wires. Testing them to see if they're dead isn't so hard. We have one that's a bit weird though. There used to be a hood above the stove. The wires are there. The inspector said they were live, but they're kinda live. We measure 17VAC. Corning Appliance Corporation went down and thought they found the breaker for it. They turned it on, and the line stayed at 17VAC. No change. I'd like to figure out where that wire goes...all breakers downstairs are on, none are tripped...

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  • Spork Schivago
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    Originally posted by budm
    They're still getting hot and it's just like in your picture there Budm. So I guess that answers the question once and for all.


    A question for everyone though...do they make any devices that can help me trace a wire? For example, down stairs in the basement, we have some wires that aren't hooked to anything, just dangling. Are there any devices where I could hook something up to one of those wires and then maybe take the other half of the device and go upstairs and find what wire it belongs to? Kinda like a wireless continuity tester or something?

    Does something like that exist? Optimally, I'd like something that could trace a wire, even behind walls. Kinda like a stud detector, but only trace the wire that I have the other part of the device hooked too. Anything like that exist? If so, what would it be called and where would I order one from?
    Last edited by Spork Schivago; 09-29-2016, 09:51 PM.

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  • budm
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs...mpaignId=29800

    LED bulbs can bring heat

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  • Spork Schivago
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    Originally posted by keeney123
    I did not know the switch was by the toilet. It could be, but I doubt it. I would be looking for a patch job in the ceiling. Might of been for a fan or heat lamp that failed and was not fixed. When they got ready to sell they may have just patched it over. So I would say if it is in the bathroom it should have something to do with the bathroom. Just don't be surprised if it's a switch to turn on your neighbors outside lights. Could be the previous owner got a chuckle out of driving his neighbor crazy.
    LOL! I love the neighbor idea.

    I think it's the opposite Keeney123. To me, it looks like they were trying to add something. They had redone the house but not really all of it. They tore down all the lathe and plaster on the walls, downstairs and upstairs, and put up drywall. The drywall in the upstairs bathroom, that's all new. The house was built in the 40's but it's a newish blue workman's box or whatever they're called. They pulled all the knob and tube wiring out and replaced it with real wires when they did the drywall as well. They also put insulation (fiberglass) in the walls, attic and some of the basement (on the ceiling area, between some of the joists, but not all of them).

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  • keeney123
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    Originally posted by Spork Schivago
    There's one on the garage but that's along way aways. It has a motion detector on it but there's no bulb in it. Do you think that switch by the toilet might actually be for that flood light out there? Never thought of that.

    It's going to take a bit for the light bulb test. My dad has these light bulb sockets that have a white and black wire coming off the end. I'm going to go grab one from him next time I'm up that way to try the lightbulb idea Stj.
    I did not know the switch was by the toilet. It could be, but I doubt it. I would be looking for a patch job in the ceiling. Might of been for a fan or heat lamp that failed and was not fixed. When they got ready to sell they may have just patched it over. So I would say if it is in the bathroom it should have something to do with the bathroom. Just don't be surprised if it's a switch to turn on your neighbors outside lights. Could be the previous owner got a chuckle out of driving his neighbor crazy.

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  • Spork Schivago
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    Originally posted by stj
    you could follow the wire from the switch with one.
    Duh! I forgot our stud detector detects electrical lines. The old one didn't, the new one does.

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  • stj
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    you could follow the wire from the switch with one.

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  • Spork Schivago
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    I got a stud detector but not a cable tracer. I don't think I've ever heard of a cable tracer before. Why?

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  • stj
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    do you have a cable tracer / stud detecter?

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  • Spork Schivago
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    There's one on the garage but that's along way aways. It has a motion detector on it but there's no bulb in it. Do you think that switch by the toilet might actually be for that flood light out there? Never thought of that.

    It's going to take a bit for the light bulb test. My dad has these light bulb sockets that have a white and black wire coming off the end. I'm going to go grab one from him next time I'm up that way to try the lightbulb idea Stj.

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  • keeney123
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    Check outside for sockets used for flood lamps.

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  • Spork Schivago
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    Originally posted by stj
    with the switch OFF, put a lamp (40-60w) between it's input and output terminals.
    if it lights then something is drawing current through it.

    something else it could be, a heated towel rail.
    i had forgotten about those stupid things.
    I think I understand. The lightbulb will act as the switch, right? If there's no load on the other end, nothing will light...makes sense. Thanks!

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  • diif
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    Originally posted by Spork Schivago
    We have a switch in the bathroom. I haven't checked to see if it's live or not yet. But wires are hooked up to it. What does it control?
    A secret door to a batcave ? or a towel rail as stj suggests.

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  • stj
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    Originally posted by Spork Schivago
    I'm not following this logic Stj. Turn on the switch and just connect a lamp between the two hot wires will somehow tell me if there's a load? Can't I use the multimeter for this?
    with the switch OFF, put a lamp (40-60w) between it's input and output terminals.
    if it lights then something is drawing current through it.

    something else it could be, a heated towel rail.
    i had forgotten about those stupid things.

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  • rhomanski
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    Originally posted by stj
    no, it is for the led's
    Okay, I thought it was the electronics. None of my led's get hot that I can get to. Only those are glued together with a cover on them.

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  • Spork Schivago
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    Re: Are LED light bulbs supposed to get hot?

    Originally posted by stj
    conect a lamp across the switch to see if there is a load.
    I'm not following this logic Stj. Turn on the switch and just connect a lamp between the two hot wires will somehow tell me if there's a load? Can't I use the multimeter for this?

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  • stj
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    conect a lamp across the switch to see if there is a load.

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  • Spork Schivago
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    The wires are hot. The wire that the switch turns on and off, that runs up through the work box or whatever you call it (the blue box that the switch screws into). It doesn't run down, it runs up. Maybe it's going into the ceiling or one reason or another. Or maybe they just punched the top part of the box out and ran it down to the floor, instead of just punching out the bottom part of the box. I doubt that though.

    There's insulation in the attic. Maybe I should go back up and take a closer look. Maybe the wire runs to some outlet up there or something that I didn't see.

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  • Spork Schivago
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    Originally posted by stj
    underfloor heater?

    maybe wires under the tub for a never-fitted air-pump?
    Upstairs, it's just a shower, the tub / shower is downstairs. But I never thought of that, heated floors. That'd be really cool. I would have thought that'd be a big selling point though and the owners would have mentioned that. We'll test it out though. First thing I'll do is see if the wires are live.

    This switch, it's right next to the toilet. I went in the attic and looked for a wire coming up and didn't see any in that area. I thought maybe it ran up there. There's a balcony that we have that you get to through the upstairs bathroom. I thought maybe they were going to add a light out there, but why put the switch next to the toilet and not next to the balcony door?

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  • stj
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    underfloor heater?

    maybe wires under the tub for a never-fitted air-pump?

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